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SWTOR Damaged My i7 2600K


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lollie
02.05.2012 , 04:59 AM | #41
Quote: Originally Posted by IvamAkorahil View Post
why is everyone who actualy has a neutral opinion based onf acts labeled whiteknight?
Four posts in a row saying "it's not the game, it's your computer" is not a neutral opinion

Facts are - the engine isn't working well.

CAUTION: DO NOT LOAD SWTOR UNLESS YOU HAVE AFTER-MARKET COOLING INSTALLED!!

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Illanair
02.05.2012 , 05:00 AM | #42
For someone claiming to be the owner of a PC Repair shop you sure as hell seem to know **** about your field. No sympathy here.

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overunitee
02.05.2012 , 05:02 AM | #43
I know before I post that some may say ,that my concern is nonsense ,but because I have no idea how the SWTOR engine works.
With all the technical information bioware have recieved And some extremely competent computer systems builders comments I think we can safely assume its not hardware related.

Please could you advice me if its possible that the fact your characters coordinates are never right ,could this being reported to the system cause the rendering to be strained leading to the issues.

You can replicate a stutter simply by running under a bridge like in alderran.

You dont have to be inside .

In the exact same place in alderan I did to experimenting my X coordinate value is never an issue. But its rare for my Y coordinate to be correct .My Y coordinate is for the most part actually my Z value ,which I'am told is the altitude ,not sure if its true all I know is you have a "z" value on the minimap.

If its an elevation value could this account for the problems were there is anything above your character ?

In alderran I got a stutter and thought ,well it cant be there is nothing above me ,but when I looked right up high above my character there was a big oval structure in mid air.

I got the usual responses from bioware but does anyone know if this is possible .

I believe the fixes so far have tried to force the game to power through the issue without actually pinpointing what could be a simple fix .

If so I thing we could cancel our order for NASA 's mars expedition control systems to run SWTOR and find the box recommendations are actually overkill .
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origional
02.05.2012 , 05:04 AM | #44
Quote: Originally Posted by IvamAkorahil View Post
thats no overheating

the gpu average temp on full load is 90, cpu on full load can go up to 75 or 80

a gpu can go to 110 and more without shutdown, cpu 90 and more without shutdown

i personaly know from repairing cpus and gpus by baking them in the oven at 190 degrees that temperatures below 200 do never ever damage architecture

usualy voltage peaks or too high voltage is what breaks them
everyone - do not listen to this fool. Running your cpus at these temps IS likely to damage your PC. Thats a simple fact. They may be capable of reaching those temperatures but they are not designed to run at those temperatures.
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korrokakita
02.05.2012 , 05:05 AM | #45
Quote: Originally Posted by IvamAkorahil View Post
if you would bother runnign a stress test like furmark on your gpu youd see its normal for high load.

90 is normal for fully loaded gpu without OC
I've run various benchmarks, thanks. But you realise that is a STRESS TEST. Playing a simple little MMO shouldn't be a constant stress test on your PC. SW on low? 90C. WoW on near max? 55C. Bit of a difference!

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Jonice
02.05.2012 , 05:06 AM | #46
But the question remains: What does the Blue Screen tell you?

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CapuchinSeven
02.05.2012 , 05:09 AM | #47
Quote: Originally Posted by lollie View Post
OP said he has sufficient cooling, though from the way you type in caps lock I doubt you managed to read/comprehend this.

Next.
Next, LOL. Whatever.

He did not have sufficient cooling.

Software cannot push your machine past 100% load, it can only push it to 100% load. If your machine cannot handle 100% load for continued periods then your cooling isn't sufficient. It doesn't matter if it's has "this or this cooling" or "played this or that game for like everz" the software cannot push your machine past 100% load and if your machine cooks then the game held your machine at 100% load can your cooling single couldn't handle it for that amount of time.

If it didn't cook before it's because it didn't get pushed before and all the "battlefieldz is r on teh max" can't change the laws of physics or computer science.

EVERY damn game these days, "game broke my machine that Jesus made". Utter rubbish posted by people who think they "know what they are talking about" who really shouldn't be using PCs.

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This game DOES kill systems.
Impossible for game to kill systems.

Quote: Originally Posted by overunitee View Post
I have no idea how the SWTOR engine works.
Because you're not a computer scientist and you have no idea what you're talking about. Same old rubbish on every forum, people that have no REAL understanding of complex computer science claiming to be "computer people", universities drop people out of 1st year comp sci every year because of people thinking that computer science is about IT or some such rubbish.

Quote: Originally Posted by overunitee View Post
With all the technical information bioware have recieved And some extremely competent computer systems builders comments I think we can safely assume its not hardware related.
Science is just something that happens elsewhere for you isn't it?

It's impossible for this software to cook a machine. The software can only push your machine to 100% of its limit, it cannot push your machine to 101%, if you machine can't handle 100% (and it doesn't matter what you've run on it before) then your machine is at fault.

All the "experience in computer building" doesn't change physics or computer science.
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IvamAkorahil
02.05.2012 , 05:13 AM | #48
Quote: Originally Posted by lollie View Post
Four posts in a row saying "it's not the game, it's your computer" is not a neutral opinion

Facts are - the engine isn't working well.
maybe it actualy is the computer ?
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lollie
02.05.2012 , 05:13 AM | #49
Quote: Originally Posted by CapuchinSeven View Post
Software cannot push your machine past 100% load, it can only push it to 100% load...zzz...If your machine cannot handle 100% load for continued periods then your cooling isn't sufficient...zzz



Impossible for game to kill systems...zzz
If something heats up fast enough, no cooling system will be able to prevent an overheat. This is what SWTOR is sometimes capable of achieving - rapid heat increases.

Simple physics.

And very odd behaviour from a game, which should never run like a stress test anyway.

CAUTION: DO NOT LOAD SWTOR UNLESS YOU HAVE AFTER-MARKET COOLING INSTALLED!!

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IvamAkorahil
02.05.2012 , 05:14 AM | #50
Quote: Originally Posted by Illanair View Post
For someone claiming to be the owner of a PC Repair shop you sure as hell seem to know **** about your field. No sympathy here.
ehm where did i say i run a repair shop ?

i fixed my own gpus and cpus serveral times in my oven, thats what i said, prooving that high temps dont destroy architecture
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