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SWTOR Damaged My i7 2600K


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Kayla_Shadowsong
02.12.2012 , 04:38 PM | #321
What intel actually rates their processor temp threshold with is the Tcase value, which is the heat at the top transfer surface of the processor. A motherboard's sensor is under the processor and so is not a really good indication of if you have sufficient cooling, though obviously if you're at 38c normally like the OP claims then you should have no problem with the actual Tcase value. In general the motherboard monitor'd heat temp is usually higher than the Tcase value.

i7 2600k Tcase threshold is 72.6c
http://ark.intel.com/products/52214/...he-3_40-GHz%29

If your motherboard supports it and you have a second monitor or a Logitech G series device you might output the heat so you can monitor it in realtime under game conditions.

I really prefer a watercooled system on the 2600k, but it really doesn't sound like that's his issue. It is still silly to blame it on a game. At worse it could have caused something to work too hard.

Try using something like "Real Temp" To monitor each core
http://www.techpowerup.com/realtemp/

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Chadwyke
02.12.2012 , 04:57 PM | #322
Quote: Originally Posted by Leggomy View Post
It does get confusing when someone comes into a thread and tried to hijack it. I mean I thought you were the OP also for a minute. Stop hijacking this thread you already have what 3 threads complaining so far? Now you come in here and then have the nerve to yell at other people when you are the one throwing a wrench in the works? Just have to smh lol.
I have only started one thread and that was showcasing the incompetence of SWTOR tech support and their failure to read information they have requested.

I have chimed in on other threads and that has been for various reasons. Sometimes it is advice and sometimes it is letting someone else know I am experiencing similar problems so Bioware can see the problem is more than "isolated". Bioware actually has said they determine importance by seeing how many people share a similar issue and whether or not people can play through the bug.

Keep your facts straight please. Use reading comprehension and watch out for when people use humor lest you end up making a post like you just did. Heck, even read back to my first post in the last 24 hours where I said that Bioware knows there is an issue with the client coding and possible overheating by the questions they have been asking me for my crashing problems.

Stop shaking your head while you are at it. I am sure the brain damage is not helping.
I only post on the forums when the game isn't working for me. Fix the game and I won't even be reading this junk.

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Glzmo
02.12.2012 , 05:21 PM | #323
Quote: Originally Posted by Morpurgo View Post
Swtor killed my GPU fan. I did not OC.

Character creation and choosing screens shoot up the GPU heat instantly.
It didn't kill your GPU fan. It was probably defective to begin with and since there was more heat, it needed to ramp up the rotation speed which exposed the flaw and killed the fan.

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Leggomy
02.12.2012 , 05:40 PM | #324
Quote: Originally Posted by Glzmo View Post
It didn't kill your GPU fan. It was probably defective to begin with and since there was more heat, it needed to ramp up the rotation speed which exposed the flaw and killed the fan.
I never understand why people spend so much on their system but skimp on the cooling. Most stock cooling is barely adequate. I bought a $30 fan for my GPU and even swtor cant make it overheat.

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matthiaskotor
02.12.2012 , 06:06 PM | #325
I didn't read all of this thread, but: a game (or any other program) cannot 'damage' your PC. If you have overclocked your system, you may find that some programs (such as games) push parts of the CPU or GPU harder than others. Some programs that don't even seem to run the CPU at '100%' may be unstable while others that push it to 100% run fine. It's more complicated than just that, especially when you start talking memory/bus overclocks. Most 3D games tend to push your system memory really hard, moreso than the actual CPU.

I'm not sure if the OP was asked for or provided more details. But just saying 'I run other games and they don't crash' doesn't mean your computer is stable at a given overclock. If you can do something like running a Prime95 instance on every core while running something like Furmark or GPUBurn for 24+ hours with no hitches, it's probably stable, but that's still not a perfect assurance.

Quote: Originally Posted by Daisai View Post
You clearly dont know how the human eye works and how you see images of games.
Yes you might only see around 25 images per second only when you see that thats not a fluid image.
I've seen this debated to death on the Internet before. You can definitely 'see' much more than 25FPS. (The Air Force has done some studies that showed pilots could identify images flashed for as little as 1/100th of a second.) Most people can easily see 24FPS flicker in movies if you look for it (especially during credit crawls).

It's different for everyone, but for me animation becomes 'seamless' somewhere around 80-90FPS (testing on a CRT that could really push 100+Hz). It's barely noticeable above 50-60, though. And on most LCD monitors you can't get more than 60-70 refreshes per second no matter how fast the game is running...

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skyhawkgr
02.12.2012 , 06:09 PM | #326
There is always CPU degradation problems on OC systems, especially when there is + vcore adjustments. It doesnt happen to everyone who OC's but there is a fair bit chance it will happen. Also if you have a bunch of the same CPUs, not all of them will overclock the same.

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Mysonne
02.12.2012 , 06:28 PM | #327
I have an I7-2600k with an EVGA Superclocked GTX570 HD 1.2 GB. Temps on my CPU are always below 45 when playing SWTOR. Temps on my GPU are around 75 while playing SWTOR. Both very normal temps when gaming. MY CPU cooling is over and above what is needed as i have the Asetek 570 LX 240mm. Plues my case has 5 other fans blowing in/out and cable management is superb so has great airflow.

Maybe before blaming a game for ruining your hardware you look at how it is setup first.

I had my PC overclocked for a few months at 4.4 Ghz. tested it with prime 95 an was stable as can be. Then one day i got a BSOD! Oh no mustve been the software. No actually it is just that the overclock became unstable so i toned it down. I currently am not even overclocked anymore as there is no performance gain using my specs above for gaming as my GPU holds me back.

It is EXTREMELY, and i mean EXTREMELY rare for software to damage pc hardware.
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lollie
02.12.2012 , 06:28 PM | #328
Quote: Originally Posted by Leggomy View Post
It does get confusing when someone comes into a thread and tried to hijack it. I mean I thought you were the OP also for a minute. Stop hijacking this thread you already have what 3 threads complaining so far? Now you come in here and then have the nerve to yell at other people when you are the one throwing a wrench in the works? Just have to smh lol.
It could only get confusing if your reading comprehension fails.

Then again, you post in so many of these threads whiteknighting I bet you don't even know which thread you're in

And how is posting in a relevant thread about an issue "throwing a wrench in the works". If you want to yell and moan at people it's all on you, don't blame them for posting issues in a correct thread.

CAUTION: DO NOT LOAD SWTOR UNLESS YOU HAVE AFTER-MARKET COOLING INSTALLED!!

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BarasCrimsonDawn
02.12.2012 , 06:34 PM | #329
I really don't understand these bad fps and performance threads on here. I built my PC 2 years ago, and even then the spec's weren't the top of the range:

I7 870 - Granted i did oc it to 4.8ghz on water, full DD setup in a MM UFO case.
16GB ripjaw ram
2 x 5870's stock clocks
1 x 120 GB OCZ SSD (Boot drive)
3 x 2TB WD blacks in raid (Game/Media drives)
3 x F3 1TB samsung drives (General storage)
Asus Formula 3 motherboard, latest bios
1KW Corsair PSU
All drivers updated to the latest versions, c++, Dx10, dx9 redist, sound card, graphics, OS

The rest of the specs are not important to be honest as it wont explain anything. But one thing i have found from a few guild mates is that the game would initially run fine, then just stutter to a hault. At frst i thought this was bad drivers or whatever... But after asking them to monitor their CPU temps i found they were all sitting at 90-100c... This is not good. For two of the guys i got them to remove the side panel and place a desktop fan in there, within 30 seconds the game went from 3fps to 60fps..

I'm wondering, not in the OP's case, but in others... Is this the reason. We all know this game engine is a load of ****, why BW didnt go with U3 i don't knot.... It's optimization is horrific.. On my own system its more taxing then BF3, Skyrim... This engine just eats resources randomly. For a quad core it always seems to leave cores 4 and 8 completely inactive for some reason, core 3 is always hit hardest..

Might be worth a go guys, check your temps, if they are high try to work around it with a large desktop fan, reapplying your thermal paste, and heatsink.. It could have come loose, you never know..

Just an idea..

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Mysonne
02.12.2012 , 06:36 PM | #330
Quote: Originally Posted by GorosGoW View Post
You must have issues reading the English language, or with reading comprehension.

My cards never had an issue with any game.

My cards also probably cost more than your whole computer combined, however.
Can you show me your E-peen!!?!?! It must be huge!....

These kinds of comments make me hate the internet most days.
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