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SWTOR Damaged My i7 2600K


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GorosGoW
02.05.2012 , 10:59 AM | #121
Quote: Originally Posted by Morpurgo View Post
Swtor killed my GPU fan. I did not OC.

Character creation and choosing screens shoot up the GPU heat instantly.
Incorrect.

Unless you clean your PC at least once a month by blowing it out, you killed your CPU fan by having graphics turned up above what your system can handle.

Also, if you didn't have VSYNC on, you did it yourself. VSYNC keeps your refresh rate to 50 or 60hz depending on your monitor's refresh rate, and keeps your card from pushing to 111fps or more, driving your card to overheat and your crappy OEM factory installed fan to death.

Just as an FYI for anyone with factory cooling - unless it's a $600 to $1000 graphics card, your cooling and fans are insufficient and will eventually fail because they are five-cent Chinese junk.

That is all.
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renegadeimp
02.05.2012 , 11:04 AM | #122
Quote: Originally Posted by GorosGoW View Post
Incorrect.

Unless you clean your PC at least once a month by blowing it out, you killed your CPU fan by having graphics turned up above what your system can handle.

Also, if you didn't have VSYNC on, you did it yourself. VSYNC keeps your refresh rate to 50 or 60hz depending on your monitor's refresh rate, and keeps your card from pushing to 111fps or more, driving your card to overheat and your crappy OEM factory installed fan to death.

Just as an FYI for anyone with factory cooling - unless it's a $600 to $1000 graphics card, your cooling and fans are insufficient and will eventually fail because they are five-cent Chinese junk.

That is all.
I like my Asus 6970 2gb. The cooling on it is actually pretty damn awesome.
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Morpurgo
02.05.2012 , 11:05 AM | #123
Quote: Originally Posted by GorosGoW View Post
Incorrect.

Unless you clean your PC at least once a month by blowing it out, you killed your CPU fan by having graphics turned up above what your system can handle.

Also, if you didn't have VSYNC on, you did it yourself. VSYNC keeps your refresh rate to 50 or 60hz depending on your monitor's refresh rate, and keeps your card from pushing to 111fps or more, driving your card to overheat and your crappy OEM factory installed fan to death.

Just as an FYI for anyone with factory cooling - unless it's a $600 to $1000 graphics card, your cooling and fans are insufficient and will eventually fail because they are five-cent Chinese junk.

That is all.
I had VSYNC on all the time. And somehow I doubt that GTS 250 running Swtor with high settings, shadows and bloom off with no AA would push it very far over the edge.
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syczlak
02.05.2012 , 11:08 AM | #124
Quote: Originally Posted by renegadeimp View Post
I like my Asus 6970 2gb. The cooling on it is actually pretty damn awesome.
I will have to agree, those cards are very nice.

msi R6950 TF III pe/oc 1GB unlocked 6970 shaders 900/1325 here and stays at 60 deg, $250

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renegadeimp
02.05.2012 , 11:12 AM | #125
Quote: Originally Posted by syczlak View Post
I will have to agree, those cards are very nice.

msi R6950 TF III pe/oc 1GB unlocked 6970 shaders 900/1325 here and stays at 60 deg, $250
yep. I have 3 cards i use for various things along with benchmarking.

2 6970 2gb cards in crossfire

1 6950 2GB card unlocked to 6970 with a 1 Ghz OC with corsair hydro cooling. This card did use stock cooling, but under benchmarks it was reaching 80 degrees. Thats not bad but i wasnt comfortable. With the hydro cooler it barely touches 45.
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GorosGoW
02.05.2012 , 11:12 AM | #126
I have a GTS250 in my wife's computer. The cooling and fan on that are literally a five-cent POS solutution.

You realize that it's a 5 or 6 year old card and that most fans fail LONG before yours did right>?

It's just a coincidence that it failed on SWTOR, it's old, outdated, and was going to fail eventually no matter what. And yes, SWTOR is going to push that card beyond it's limits.

You realize that the 250 card is just an overclocked and reskinned 8800gts? or 9800gts? All 3 (8800, 9800, and 250) are just the exact same chips with slightly faster clock speeds and more memory on the card itself...the core architecture of the CPU is IDENTICAL.\

So yeah...the 8800 came out in 2006. SWTOR is more than maxing it out, especially if your fans picked up in speed on character select screens (MY 580GTX Lightning Xtreme's fans kick into high gear on loading screens too, but it is what it is)
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Mineria
02.05.2012 , 12:30 PM | #127
@OP
Your running with the speed reviewers used in SHORT OC sessions and think that it will run stable 24/7 for ages like that, you do know that the CPU is not the only factor to take into consideration, right?
I bet you even disabled everything letting the clocks go down while NOT using the CPU.
Besides that your running 2 cards in SLI, which adds additional heat in your system, is your air flow even good enough in that little case to get the heat out?

Always easy to blame someone else...

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Marctraider
02.05.2012 , 12:53 PM | #128
Quote: Originally Posted by Gangrel View Post
It also might not be good... especially if its based on a chip that has a higher native speed. It is more often than not downclocked for good reason (faulty pipeline on one core, so they downgrade it on that part... not stable at stock frequency, but stable at a lower one... dont overclock that one )
I know, but I was just explaining that if you can pump another 30/50% performance out of your system why wouldn't you?

And some overclocks don't even need voltage bumping so it is pretty much safe to 'try' if you know what you're doing.
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Kalec-Stromhir
02.05.2012 , 01:02 PM | #129
Quote: Originally Posted by korrokakita View Post
Please read up before making these claims. Even a cursory Google search will tell you that >64C for an AMD FX-8120 is the "danger zone". Temp programs also come with that figure pre-programmed in them, for goodness sake.

As for the GPU? 90 is pretty damn high compared to how it runs on any other game. It's pretty high stress imo.
You have a store bought PC. Right there, your temps will be much higher, due to terrible cooling inside.
64c is not the danger zone for the FX chips. many know this, if you didnt buy a store bought PC.
The mobo in that system, is cheap, stock cooling is not good. Plus you have a 6770, which is a lower model GPU, so most of the performance muct come from your CPU, as your GPU lacks the ability to run at higher performance.

Too the OP, I know you say that the game keeps crashing, but I really doubt its the game. You say the when browsing you crash. Well the game didnt do that.
You must have an instability in your OC, incorrect voltage for your ram/CPu. Could be a issue with the ram that is causing errors in them.
Running SLI, your GPU will be higher than normal by 10-15c. That is common.
So you have HAF 932, you kept the cooling on it. Front 230mm, side 200mm Intake. Rear 140mm, 200mm top exhaust.
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boatracer
02.05.2012 , 01:05 PM | #130
This game has caused more problems for my computer than anything I have ever ran on it. Random freezes, lock ups, reboots, crashes to desk top, a freeze with a horrible buzzing noise and crappy performace.

I don't play the game much anymore, will log in occasionly to see what few remaining friends that I have left playing are up to and thats about it until my sub runs out. WZ's dont give credit, pvp loot system is completely broken and all the rest of the crap associated with this pos game.

Anyway, before I log in I remove one of my video cards and 8 gigs of my ram. I've read too many horror stories about this game stressing your computer beyond the max and I don't feel like replacing hardware due to this game. I've already spent enough money on a new psu and ram that I was told I needed to run this abortion of a game, when I actually didn't.

The op has some valid points, but more than likely in my opinion, the damage was caused by two things. This game putting a tremendous amount of stress on hardware and his OC'd settings.

My comp can run other games fine OC'd, but I don't risk it with this game. It's too f'd up and nobody is quite sure what it's doing to our hardware.