Critable orange gear undermines intent of removable epic base mods

your post makes sense, and i get the argument...i dont want ppl to think im just trolling. im just saying a few of these posts sound like ppl just whining it takes too long to get stuff. im sorry but i like the idea that it's not just handed out. if you have to work to get something people say it's too hard...if people are handed stuff they say it's too easy. what ever happened to just enjoying a game. if someone has better gear than you it's probably because they spent the time to get it. if you are a casual gamer you shouldnt have the same gear a hardcore player should have.

with that said and on a side note i do feel that gear should not make or break a player. skill should be the main deciding factor on how good someone is. then level, then gear

tldr, but they already said that they are expanding augments to other gear, this argument is moot.

Actually you are quite wrong here Karkais. Georg and other Devs (See Emmanuel Lusinchi's post about coming changes to Orange gear) have stated in no uncertain terms, that once they change to base mods goes live, set bonuses WILL transfer with base mods.

Their intent, according to Dev posts, is for all end game set bonuses to be transferable to customizable gear. And that the set bonuses will travel with the base mods, they have also said to prevent farming, some base mods will only go into some types of pieces after the change. I.E. Your set chest's base mod, will only go into another chest, and will transfer the set bonuses to the new chest.



Alexis
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It's 11 for all classes: for IA/Scoundrel: Vibroknives/Scatterguns can be crit, you can crit shield generators, power generators, Focus items. So all advanced classes can have 11 Augmentation slots, you are right on the +30 per, so you're looking at a total stat increase with all crit gear of +330 at level 50 for anyone willing to spend the time/money getting all 11 equipment slots crit and get the augments.

The orange moddable gear is a great thematic system that handles the functions of both an appearance tab and customizable gear stats at the same time. There is no reason for BW to abandon it, especially when calling for an appearance tab only accomplishes HALF of the customization people want to see; you still need a system in place for stat customization as well. The orange moddable system accomplishes BOTH just fine (or it will, once the tier gear mod changes are in place).

Don't get confused in thinking that an appearance tab is the "MMO standard feature" that we all want. The "MMO standard feature" that we all want is the ability to customize the appearance of our BIS end-game gear to a sufficient degree that we don't all feel like clones. There are multiple ways to accomplish this, and an appearance tab is only one way. Dyes are another possible approach. The orange moddable gear is yet another.

Yes, BW COULD have just copied the solution to this as-is from other games, but I personally like the implications of the moddable gear idea as a unique part of this game and am glad to see them try a new idea for this in general. For one thing it has a LOT of great potential for crafters long term: mods, RE of existing stuff for more orange patterns, rare orange patterns that take an epic amount of work to acquire but that retain life-time value for a crafter because they will ALWAYS be relevant for players, etc. I also like that it gives the graphic designers some control over the light/medium/heavy/class silhouettes while still providing tons of customization options (of course, not everyone is on board with that).

Now if only BW would get their heads out of wherever they've stuck them and illustrate that they have a basic understanding of the design principles behind the feature set moddable gear must provide to players, rather than constantly suggesting changes that would undermine their own system.

Yes this is a GREAT idea when everyone hits battle master we will all look the SAME!

The best thing BW can do is remove completely Augments. These are plain stupid and not needed in this game. Just remove them and put another cool item to compensate crafters doing it.

Issues about gear are at last (if we believe these patch changes) about to dissapear, and puttting augments on Orange gear is going to bring headaches again.

I still don't undestarnd how we are still having such as issues right now, when the solution is fairly simple:


- Make ALL armor sets ingame have an Orange version (right now half of the sets are not orange).

- Make all raid/PvP sets Modable (so we can extract their mods).

- Make orange gear schematics more common on loot or missions.

- When these 3 things are done, don't touch them again.



BTW, Expertise in this game is already too high and too imbalancing, and too frustrating for people who doesn't play 6-7 hours a day. Adding augments to the mix will just kill PvP for non hardcore players.

So if I understand this correctly wearing an augmented orange item with transferred mods will be better than wearing the drop itself because of the augment. That means you will still be forced to wear something specific only now it costs you 60k to remove the mods + the craftable orange item cost + the augment cost.

Crit gear > tier gear = non crit orange gear

And that's a good idea why exactly?

I am looking forward to tier gear mods being extractable and usable in orange gear, especially as I don't like the look of my JK armour.

However, allowing only crafted orange gear to have an augment slot (via crits) is just forcing me (unless I don't care about min/max at all) to wear the ones available ... and most likely look like every other JK around here.

The best solution (imo only ofc) would be to allow augment mods (like mentioned before: wow belt buckle as an example) to be added to your gear, however, not necessarily for every piece of gear you wear. Maybe 2 per crafting skill (belt & bracer via synt/armour, main & off hand via armstech/artifice etc), whereas cybertech would get the short end with only 1 via the earpiece, but might could get a headset thingy to be even.
And these mods/enhancements should be the only way to get augment slots onto your gear, beside the crew skill specific crits you can get now already, whereas the Rakata gear should be tied to active crew skills, just like biochem reusable items (no chain crafting of crit purples and skill switching, if you want to use your crafted relics - stick with artifice).

Second best solution would be to simply add a wardrobe feature for the individual look you want.

Why allow augments on every moddable piece of armor thats craftable? That would make the synthweaving and armormech classes overpowered to a degree. Limit it to pieces that don't have a huge change in appearance like wrists and belt. There is a huge demand for moddable wrists and belts as is allowing armormech and synthweavers to make them with augment slots and only allowing those pieces to have augment slots on craftable modable armor would be killing two birds with one stone.

They have a very minimal impact to the look of your character and wouldn't effect the actual appearance of your look you achieve with helmet,chest,leggings boots and gloves that you can generally get from flashpoints and commendations. Modable wrist and belt slots are pretty rare as a drop from loot,commendations, heroic rewards or flashpoint rewards. And what is available is tied to a particular class. Opening up the market to only certain slots would make more sense and would be more achievable while maintaining the diversity of looks everyone desires. Granted this would cut down on the amount of a bonus one could achieve but I think it would be worth it.

Cybertechs have earpieces that can have augments maybe pick a couple slots for modable droid gear, biotechs have implants. Having the ability to make craftable tier pieces from the main trainer, pvp vendor, pve vendors or make them loot drops would be enough for them I think. The only ones I feel that would be left out are the armstech and to a lesser degree artifice. Not being able to preview the look of a weapon effects the armstech the most. Armstech could use a boost though I've mostly only needed barrels and companion weapons from them.