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NOW = 1.7 Million Active Subscribers | 3 Months from now = Guess What

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NOW = 1.7 Million Active Subscribers | 3 Months from now = Guess What

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Faytte
02.06.2012 , 03:20 PM | #611
My guess is they will drop to 900K by the end of the month, then down to 600K/500K by the end of the following month.

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Drizt_
02.06.2012 , 03:25 PM | #612
1 million or less when you look at the player count on the planet your on and see 50 other people you start to wonder why it was sold as a mmo..

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Blotter
02.06.2012 , 03:35 PM | #613
Quote: Originally Posted by StrikeOfLight View Post
This guy RIGHT here. ^^^^^^^



As for the "numbers" that have come out, everyone should know that the Q3 release from EA counted those numbers as of DECEMBER 31st, 2011. This is what that means:

#1. This was when there was a free month.

#2. The good looking math is likely NOT so good looking now, a month and some change down the road from when that was reported.


CLIFFS: We'll have to see when they release another financial statement. My guess: It isn't going to be pretty and EAs stock is going to fall. Hard.
THIs has been beaten to death, but I'm gonna give it one last kick in the taint since you guys apparently can't stop yourselves from trying to spread disinformation:

1. The revenue/operating statements from the press release were the numbers for revenue, expenses, etc., as of December 31, 2011.

2. The statements by EA/BW representatives to investors and stockholders on February 1, 2012 that they CURRENTLY has 1.7M ACTIVE SUBSCRIPTIONS, most of which were paying, but some of which were still on free trial, was a statement about the number of active subscriptions ON FEBRUARY 1, 2012...NOT DECEMBER 31, 2011. Myriad reasons for this, but most of all:

a. The English language requires interpreting statements using the word CURRENT to mean that someone is referring to RIGHT NOW; and

b. Federal law prohibits misleading and fraudulent statements to investors. Give that EA.BW was absolutely clear in the language it used that it was referring to subscriptions numbers/status as of February 1, 2012, they would be exposed to all sorts of legal problems if it later cam eout that they were trying to tell investors one thing and use numbers from a month prior. Moreover, such behavior would expose them to all sorts of civil lawsuits from investors. FACE IT: THEY WEREN'T LYING AND THEY WEREN'T TALKING ABOUT DECEMBER 31, 2011, EXCEPT FOR THE PORTION OF THE REPORT THAT COVERED Q3 EARNINGS.
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Bullsith
02.06.2012 , 03:37 PM | #614
They are gonna lose half, if not more. I'm afraid there's no turning back for BW now. SWTOR will join the graveyard of MMOs that challenged WoW and didn't make it past the first round. Shame, I followed this game since 2008.
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Nytak
02.06.2012 , 03:42 PM | #615
No idea. BioWare definitely came out of the gates strong. They made it through the crucial launch and free month with shining colors.

Things definitely looking good. But I agree w/ others that the 3 month and 6 month marks will give us a more clear picture of the long term.

I'm still happy and playing, and have no plans on that changing. Will I still be happy in 3 months, or 6? I don't know, but I do know that if I'm still playing 6 months down the road, I will most likely continue to play for a few years to come.

They retained me for the first month, they released what I believe to be a solid game with enormous potential for growth. Now it really boils down to what BioWare does with this game and whether or not that gels with me in the long run.
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ratster
02.06.2012 , 03:43 PM | #616
I wanna guess too! 2.1 million (exactly) as of 12:53:22 4/1/2012.

Anyway, the game has mass appeal, its by far the most successful MMO start ever.

People compare to WoW, but it did not have 1.7 million subs 30 days after launch.

Time will tell, but I believe they have a winner.

Since no one really knows what the saturation level is on the MMO market, no telling how its success or not will affect WoW subscriptions one way or the other.

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Tiaa
02.06.2012 , 03:47 PM | #617
Still don't believe this game has 1.7 million subs.

It doesn't feel like it in game nor outside.

I have no friends that play this and most people I have talked to in game shops won't even touch it/ know this game exist.

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DarthSublimitas
02.06.2012 , 03:48 PM | #618
drop in half...
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Emeda
02.06.2012 , 03:51 PM | #619
Quote: Originally Posted by ratster View Post
I wanna guess too! 2.1 million (exactly) as of 12:53:22 4/1/2012.

Anyway, the game has mass appeal, its by far the most successful MMO start ever.

People compare to WoW, but it did not have 1.7 million subs 30 days after launch.

Time will tell, but I believe they have a winner.

Since no one really knows what the saturation level is on the MMO market, no telling how its success or not will affect WoW subscriptions one way or the other.
I also believe there are more people playing MMO's now than back then. I dont think there were 10 million people playing MMO's back in 2003 where as now there are probable 5x as many more people playing MMO's than in 2003.

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Emeda
02.06.2012 , 03:55 PM | #620
Quote: Originally Posted by Bullsith View Post
They are gonna lose half, if not more. I'm afraid there's no turning back for BW now. SWTOR will join the graveyard of MMOs that challenged WoW and didn't make it past the first round. Shame, I followed this game since 2008.
So WoW is the tyson of MMO's. Hopefully some no name company will make a no name MMO that will detrown the champ. Hopefully his name will be SWG2