NOW = 1.7 Million Active Subscribers | 3 Months from now = Guess What

Notice that they said "majority" (which can be as low as 50.1% of people) instead of giving the actual number? Most estimates are just over a million of those "active" subscriptions are paying. That's absolutely horrendous.

But for how long? Honestly I just finished my free month and am paying for 1 month, it's lunacy to spend 60 bucks on a multi-million dollar triple A release and only give it one month when it has 3-4 months of leveling content alone. The only issue I'm finding alt leveling is too linear and has turned me off at the moment, so people may not be playing for 3-4 months because of that reason.

How many people have subscribed past 3 months? Probably 750k and that's bein generous. MMORPG's have less than 40% retention rates, that'd put SWTOR at 900k at at best guess scenario.

I'm also wondering how many unit were sold over 2 million, just imagine they should 2.5 million boxs, it'd look bad that 700k have already left. Just my 2 cents.

My post was in direct response to the assertion that "a large portion" havent actually paid yet. To me less than half =\ a large portion.

As far as what will happen in the future, who knows. The numbers they gave were in no way meant to be a glimpse into the future, they were just commenting on the success of the launch. They have no reason or even any way to know who's planning to unsub next month or stay for the next 3 years.

Fair enough. I'm just really curious how the project is going to do, I'm hoping it does well so they can implement some features to keep us hooked. I miss my 'vaccum suck' MMORPG, although that may be a good thing

Exactly. But guess what. SWTOR also has horrible game engine.

I am really willing to give Bioware time to fix bugged game concepts and mechanics. But how big chances are that they are going to fix the entire engine? IMO picking Hero Engine to run SWTOR was a ginourmous mistake.

I am really really tired chopping each warzone match with 15 fps with all low settings while my PC can run every single other modern game with ultra settings and smooth FPS. SWTOR has IMO worst game engine from all MMO-s released in the last 10 years (taking the current state of art level into account). The only one which was equaly bad was... yep, Warhammer. How they can possibly fix that is beyond me.

For now I keep playing becouse I do not see the alternative to start with. But the moment something catches my attention and Bioware will still not do something about this worthless engine, I am out. Yes that is just me but there is a chance some people will have similar approach.

Are you joking? After all the server merging goes on, the number won't go above 700k. You are all blinded by the story of the game. Once that's done, you'll realize you're playing WoW with low-res textures and lightsabers.

Ill say 2 million 2.5 at most but I definately see it growing I'm 50 and unlike the normal forum posters i can't get bored with the Operations and PvP yet so if updates meet my needs i'm not worried and updates seem to be headed in the right direction so far.

Now you're just arguing semantics. Just because you define large portion as greater than half, doesn't mean the number isn't significant enough to demonstrate a waning number of players.

If you came here in to discuss the meaning of "large portion" then I will kindly point you in another direction because that is certainly not relevant to the topic at hand. However...

I gather that wasn't the case. The numbers they gave are simply a ploy to convince people that their game is doing well. Why else would they include players that haven't actually subscribed (paid a monthly fee) to the game in those figures? You would be dense to think otherwise and definitely lacking the business sense to participate in this conversation to begin with.

What server merging... and I'm done with the main story aspect and still having more fun than wow I played wow a few days ago since my sub is still active for the 1 year deal and found myself logging of 1hr later to play swtor. Don't act like you speak for everyone.