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How can it be I make Esselles & BT THREE TIMES and my char gets NOTHING

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How can it be I make Esselles & BT THREE TIMES and my char gets NOTHING

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Elikal
12.15.2011 , 07:40 AM | #1
Ok, here is something that REALLY angers me. I mean ok, there are bosses and the drop is random. Fine. But first: I'd really really really wish the game would adapt to drop something in accordance with WHO is in the group! I duo'ed BT with a BH and my Inquisitor and almost ALL drops were Medium. I mean, IS IT POSSIBLE to drop something the players can use? So I made Esselles with my Jedi Guardian one time, and BT with my Sith Inq. even TWO times, and in ALL THREE I got not a single piece for me. Not one.

Fine again, if at least the QUEST would give some feel-good-reward. But wrong again. The quest gives only XP. No reward whatsoever.

And HOW THE HECK CAN THIS BE, that I make BT two times, once even just in a duo, and my Sith gets NOTHING he can use.

For the force's sake ADD SOME BLASTED REWARD for the quest, so those with bad luck get even some small thing to use! How can it be, I make a 4-man instance quest, which takes times and hard work and my char gets nothing! Is is WOW already were people grind the same instances 10 times to get something for them?

Sorry, but I am so mad about this. And yeah you can troll what you want, but when a 4 man instance doesn't even give one stupid piece, there just is something wrong. Effort in a game should always lead to some reward, or the entire purpose of playing the game is void!
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Shocktastik
12.15.2011 , 07:49 AM | #2
I can see how that would really piss you off. I always get angry when I flip a coin twice and it's not heads at least 1 of those times! /sarcasm

Maybe you'd like the game to analyze your gear to make sure that everything that drops will always be an upgrade too. Why waste your time if the gear that drops isn't any better than what you already have!

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Xzulld
12.15.2011 , 07:50 AM | #3
Its math. If the boss has 10 items to drop and you only need one of those, and they have equal chances to drop you would need to run the instances 10 times to have an even chance at seeing that item drop.

Strings of the same number appear all the time in random rolls, ie its highly possible that in 20 runs you will still not see it.

As you are leveling its hardly an issue, you will get gear from quests that is just as good at your next planet.

In wow I ran ZA 30 times and never saw my shoulders. I ended up getting a better pair from a harder raid. Months later running someone else through it . . . they drop.

Its the name of the game friend.

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kalicokane
12.15.2011 , 07:50 AM | #4
Naw man I feel you. It's just bad luck really, as the loot is based on RNGs. I remember back when playing WoW, after a whole night of heavy raiding (raiding, mind you, is much more consuming than a flashpoint/instance) I would end up not picking any loot up and not because i would lose a roll... No. Just because no loot would drop for my char. It is awful but it's just luck.

And tbh, don't obsess so much over early flashpoint loot. You'll end up replacing it really fast anyways.

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Elikal
12.15.2011 , 07:53 AM | #5
I could live even with the bad luck. But I STILL think the boss loot should adapt to who actually is in the group.


What I CANT live with is, how a quest for a 4 man instance has no reward piece but only XP! That is just WRONG! It leaves people with the same, stupid WOW treadmill of grinding instances.
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Tourniquett
12.15.2011 , 08:00 AM | #6
Quote: Originally Posted by Elikal View Post
I could live even with the bad luck. But I STILL think the boss loot should adapt to who actually is in the group.


What I CANT live with is, how a quest for a 4 man instance has no reward piece but only XP! That is just WRONG! It leaves people with the same, stupid WOW treadmill of grinding instances.
You would have loved AION when it came out. around 5% chance for the boss to drop anything at all, let alone a rare item..

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Lrowe
12.15.2011 , 08:01 AM | #7
I rather liked the way that lotro did their loot for raids. There would be one coin that would drop that could be exchanged for an armor piece. That way anyone could win the piece on any run.

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Elikal
12.15.2011 , 08:04 AM | #8
Quote: Originally Posted by Tourniquett View Post
You would have loved AION when it came out. around 5% chance for the boss to drop anything at all, let alone a rare item..
You know, I don't even ask for much! Just a new glove or hat, it doesn't have to have some great stats. Just SOMETHING to feel rewarded for my effort. In this case I DIDN'T EVEN GET THE LOUSY T-SHIRT! I just want a small piece to feel my effort is rewarded in some small silly piece. And not just a mere cold handshake!
"There is no civility, only politics."
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Varcan
12.15.2011 , 08:08 AM | #9
Quote: Originally Posted by Lrowe View Post
I rather liked the way that lotro did their loot for raids. There would be one coin that would drop that could be exchanged for an armor piece. That way anyone could win the piece on any run.
Not a fan of the everybody gets a trophy loot system. At least when you finally win something you'll be really excited about it.

Esseles loot is pretty trivial though. You'll be wearing it for 1-3 days of play, and then replace it.

And I've found the loot system to be pretty good anyway. Is does seem to take into account what classes are in the group from my experience, which greatly increases your odds.

I guess you're just really unlucky...

Edit: I played these a lot in beta and got somthing at least 75% of the time, probably more. On live i got marginally better green pants.

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Tomidius
12.15.2011 , 08:23 AM | #10
Lower level gear will last you a day or so.. or an evening...... Relax and have fun good sir