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ferroz
02.05.2012 , 08:11 AM | #561
Quote: Originally Posted by Symbonis View Post
Your scale is opinion, much like my opinion in this thread. I would actually place myself at 3, with a sprinkling of 1. I would place you all at a 6th point
That's clearly an untenable position. Someone who ever insists that they have loot priority on someone else is CLEARLY a more selfish person than someone who doesn't. So the people ever insist on loot priority (ie, you can't roll on that because of X reason) are more selfish than people who don't.

you clearly aren't a #3, since you insist on your loot priority being enforced on folks who don't have the same loot priority. You're a #5, more selfish than the people who roll need on everything, across the board.

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What happened to oldschool MMO players that weren't self-entitled little turds?
I think that we're mostly saying that it's absurd to think that you can dictate your loot priority to other people.

The ones that are self entitled turds think it's reasonable to dictate loot priority to other people, but seem to remain blind to their own entitlement issues no matter how clearly it's spelled out.

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I can remember a time where what you people suggest would have had you all crucified on a game and ostracized for the rest of said characters game life.
Then you're either not a really old school gamer, or you didn't actually play with very many other people, since open rolls was pretty much the loot standard in many old school games.

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sjmc
02.05.2012 , 08:24 AM | #562
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Someone who ever insists that they have loot priority on someone else is CLEARLY a more selfish person than someone who doesn't.
Two people:

1. One believes that, for items that they don't want, they will give others a higher chance of gaining the item by rolling greed. They will press need for all other items, giving themselves at least an equal chance of getting the item.

2. One believes that, for items that they do want, they should have increased chance of winning it by pressing need. They will get a lower chance on items by pressing greed on items that they don't want, possibly getting a less-than-equal chance of getting items they don't want.

EDIT: person 3: One that believes that, for items that meet a certain criteria ("has my class stats"), they deserve to get the item over anyone else. Whether or not you want the item, you must meet the criteria to be allowed to roll need for the item.

Which is the greedier person?

Personally, I don't think any of them are more greedy than the others. The greedy ones impose their choices on you. The non-greedy ones let you do what you like.

(Person 3 would probably be the least greedy if their criteria is restrictive and as long as they don't hold anyone else to the same criteria).

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crica
02.05.2012 , 01:27 PM | #563
Quote: Originally Posted by MrOrionQuest View Post
What you think is fair and reasonable to roll on doesn't matter if your server doesn't allow it.
The ONLY players that have ANY say about loot in a group I am in is the players who are actually IN the group.

The entire server has no say at all in any group I am in if they are not in the group as well.

IE: 4 players group up and agree to all roll Need for any reason they personally want to, then the REST of the server DOESN'T matter.

And with a x-server grouping tool, same thing - ONLY the group members matter, NOT the rest of the servers.

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DevonDs
02.05.2012 , 01:38 PM | #564
I've just started asking during the first cut scene how the group is going to handle this. So far whatever the group chose they have stuck with.
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ferroz
02.05.2012 , 01:57 PM | #565
Quote: Originally Posted by sjmc View Post
Two people:

1. One believes that, for items that they don't want, they will give others a higher chance of gaining the item by rolling greed. They will press need for all other items, giving themselves at least an equal chance of getting the item.

2. One believes that, for items that they do want, they should have increased chance of winning it by pressing need. They will get a lower chance on items by pressing greed on items that they don't want, possibly getting a less-than-equal chance of getting items they don't want.

EDIT: person 3: One that believes that, for items that meet a certain criteria ("has my class stats"), they deserve to get the item over anyone else. Whether or not you want the item, you must meet the criteria to be allowed to roll need for the item.

Which is the greedier person?
Those aren't the categories of people that I'm talking about. You've left out the key difference.

Here are the ones I'm talking about

3. One believes that, for items that they don't want, they will give others a higher chance of gaining the item by rolling greed. They will press need for all other items, giving themselves at least an equal chance of getting the item.


5. One believes that, for items that they don't want, they will give others a higher chance of gaining the item by rolling greed. They also think it's ok for them to dictate the correct items for people to want. They will press need for all other items, giving themselves at least an equal chance of getting the item.

#5, is clearly the greedier, more self centered person. That's the category that the restrictive NBG camp is in. The people who are in favor of each player determining his own need are in category #3. This is quite obviously a less greedy, less selfish position.

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MalignX
02.05.2012 , 02:26 PM | #566
Quote: Originally Posted by MrOrionQuest View Post
It doesn't matter what you think is feasible to roll on, if your server doesn't like it. I've said this before, but obviously some people just don't understand the concept. What you think is fair and reasonable to roll on doesn't matter if your server doesn't allow it. You can harp all day long how you like your companion to be geared, how you like the look of a certain piece, if you want to strip the mods out, etc. Plain and simply, if your server frowns upon rolling on gear that can't be used by you, and an actual player could use it as an upgrade, and you keep doing it, eventually you will have almost no endgame. Your peers CAN and WILL force you how to play, they DO tell you how you can roll on gear, and there's nothing you can do about it, because eventually you'll end up being blacklisted if they don't like it.

Your only option is to play by the rules they set, if you don't like it, roll another server or re-make your entire account. It's the same with almost all civilized society right now. Societies and communities create law, it doesn't matter if you agree with it or not, if you want to keep living there, you abide by them or go somewhere else, plain and simple.
This is your opinion.
Just because I do not care, does not mean I do not understand.

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itekazzawrrlic
02.05.2012 , 02:37 PM | #567
Quote: Originally Posted by face_hindu View Post
lol is right! Where'd he pull that number from?

I'd say it's more like 95%.
lol Dude, you need to get a grip. I need whenever without asking permission. I have no problem getting groups. In fact the only people i see getting booted are the people like you who complain.
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CoolSprog
02.05.2012 , 02:42 PM | #568
I gave up reading after a few pages, how depressing.

Put simply anyone who needs on loot for there fake pixel buddy companion, over the needs of a real person who actually needs that loot is simply selfish and you should waste no time on pond life such as them.

No loot rules needed, its pretty damn obvious.

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crica
02.05.2012 , 02:47 PM | #569
Quote: Originally Posted by CoolSprog View Post
I gave up reading after a few pages, how depressing.

Put simply anyone who needs on loot for there fake pixel buddy companion, over the needs of a real person who actually needs that loot is simply selfish and you should waste no time on pond life such as them.

No loot rules needed, its pretty damn obvious.
and the toon they are currently playing is not a fake pixel toon?

knock knock, anyone home?

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itekazzawrrlic
02.05.2012 , 02:47 PM | #570
Quote: Originally Posted by CoolSprog View Post
I gave up reading after a few pages, how depressing.

Put simply anyone who needs on loot for there fake pixel buddy companion, over the needs of a real person who actually needs that loot is simply selfish and you should waste no time on pond life such as them.

No loot rules needed, its pretty damn obvious.
Yeah and your main isn't a bunch of fake pixels?

If companions are not part of your character, then why do they show up in your character sheet window?
Who is more foolish? The fool, or the fool who follows?

SWG Gorath
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