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Pvp gear nerfs are you freaking kidding?!

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Pvp gear nerfs are you freaking kidding?!
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me_unknown
02.02.2012 , 07:54 AM | #281
Quote: Originally Posted by Jarvus View Post
Expertise. This mechanic serves no purpose other than to widen the very gap devs now say they wish to lessen. They should think about that. They should remove Expertise. Simple.

Removing the expertise has been already brought up a hundred times before, but would make pvp gear the equivalent of level 54 armor or something. Considering the lottery we've all had to play since the game's start with popping bags, and doing dailies just to get the gear, I do think nerfing the gear, instead of fixing the actual source of the crying is a mistake.
this would be the biggest mistake ever. it would not reduce the gap it would make it far bigger, especially in the future. if you remove expertise then you either cannot introduce new and better pve gear with new more demanding pve content or you condamn pvp players to hunt the carrot of pve gear to keep being able to have a chance in pvp.

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sithkllr
02.02.2012 , 07:55 AM | #282
You will still have better gear that fresh 50's. I dont see the problem. So you wont be able to just faceroll your keyboard and win. why would you want to play a game that has ridiculous gear ranges like WOW? Gear should give you an edge, not garauntee that you destroy ppl that dont have it.
WHY CAN'T I FAST TRAVEL TO MY SHIP?!

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me_unknown
02.02.2012 , 07:56 AM | #283
Quote: Originally Posted by Asnine View Post
WE STILL HAVE NO IDEA HOW THEY'RE CHANGING THE (PVP) GEAR SETS.

All we know is that BM/Champ will be HARDER to get (they're nerfing the drop rate) while cent will be easier to get.
the thing about "harder" is wrong!
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The number of commendations in Champion and Battlemaster Bags has been greatly increased, and the direct item trade tokens appear less frequently in Champion Bags. This change allows players to obtain PvP gear at a steady and significantly more predictable rate with an occasional bonus.
actually this sound as if it will get EASIER (and not harder). a double drop for the same item won't have such a big impact anymore as you can buy it with commendations which now comes in a higher amount.

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Asnine
02.02.2012 , 07:56 AM | #284
Quote: Originally Posted by Jest View Post
Umm.. depends on what you mean by "harder." The change looks like it simply reduces the RNG nature of gearing that's currently in the game and gives a more straight forward and faster way to grind the gear through Comms.
Perhaps. But the only thing contained in the dev post I read was that they're letting you get cent gear easier (since champ bags will have more cent commendations) while nerfing drop rates of champ/BM.

At the same time people valor 60+ will have an easier time getting champ gear (since BM bags now have more champ comms), but BM token drop rate would be nerfed.


Nothing else was contained in that post, afaik.


edit: ahh..reading the above post I guess you could interpret it either way. Maybe it is making it less RNG dependent...which is a good thing.

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Karma_UK
02.02.2012 , 07:57 AM | #285
I support a more leveling playing field in 50 PvP.

However It's seems they didn't put much thought into the PvP systems in this game.

Ilium, brackets now nerfing hard earned lucky dip armour.


Maybe before doing that they should stop and have a hard think about future systems before they implement anything else.

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Barrechor
02.02.2012 , 07:58 AM | #286
I find this change laughable. A fresh 50 can go into lv50 pvp with 200 expertise. That is more than enough to help them feel like they can challenge a bit.

Too many fresh 50s go into level 50 PvP undergeared, a lot of them are undergeared for lv48 or 49, nevermind lv50.

If these whiners put more time and effort into acquiring the gear thats available to them and less time whining on forums they would be in much better shape.

People are just lazy and CBA finding out ways to help themselves, and thats the problem here.
Barrechor - Lv50 BM Focus Guard / Katana - Lv40 Scrapper / <Tarro Blood> - East Coast

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chton
02.02.2012 , 08:00 AM | #287
Quote: Originally Posted by Lord_Indomitus View Post
Why not nerf PvE gear tbh. I can't skip 4mans and get into raids as fresh 50. So nerf OPs and PVE gear please... ofc I am kidding, I feel I have to explain that since I am worried about some people's intelligence reading this and other posts. WHAT A JOKE YOU PEOPLE ARE.

Please MORE PvE Carebears crying about PvP gear, so it get obvious to more people that this game is a fluffy, PvE game for casual carebears. It's also pretty funny to watch them cry, so...

I don't really mind, since I am passing through swtor and tbh, my alt is 48lvl atm, so I wouldn't mind PvP gear being nerfed as I need to grind for my 2nd Battlemaster... but it;s SO funny seeing all the carebears giving REAL LIFE arguments to support a change in a GAME. You guys are so funny, hahaha.

1. There's so little difference between BM and champ
2. Getting Champ gear is SO easy even if you are low valor rank
3. Getting to valor rank 60 is not that important and it's super-easy compared to other games (access to best PvP gear in the game)

1+2+3 makes it SO funny watching people crying about PvP gear. Unless it's the PvE carebears who want PvP gear nerfed so as to use their PvE gear in PvP and do their PvE rotations on us. So maybe they just want PvE gear to have an edge over PvP gear in order to cover for their lacking skill.
For all the fluffy carebear talk who are the people crying here? Oh that'd be the big boy PVPers...waaaaaaaaa.

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me_unknown
02.02.2012 , 08:02 AM | #288
Quote: Originally Posted by chton View Post
For all the fluffy carebear talk who are the people crying here? Oh that'd be the big boy PVPers...waaaaaaaaa.
if you aren't able to see that this is a sarcastic mirror post than you shouldn't log into forums at all.

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asdfgasdfasd
02.02.2012 , 08:04 AM | #289
Quote: Originally Posted by Jest View Post
Umm.. depends on what you mean by "harder." The change looks like it simply reduces the RNG nature of gearing that's currently in the game and gives a more straight forward and faster way to grind the gear through Comms.
That makes sense. I always thought centurion was too expensive.

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maradigamer
02.02.2012 , 08:04 AM | #290
Quote: Originally Posted by Barrechor View Post
I find this change laughable. A fresh 50 can go into lv50 pvp with 200 expertise. That is more than enough to help them feel like they can challenge a bit.

Too many fresh 50s go into level 50 PvP undergeared, a lot of them are undergeared for lv48 or 49, nevermind lv50.

If these whiners put more time and effort into acquiring the gear thats available to them and less time whining on forums they would be in much better shape.

People are just lazy and CBA finding out ways to help themselves, and thats the problem here.
Some of the so called 'whiners' are getting yelled at by their own teammates. That's my issue with it. Why can't I earn the gear before I hit 50 so I don't have to be a detriment to my own team?
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