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1.1.2 PvP bag changes.

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1.1.2 PvP bag changes.
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McVade
02.02.2012 , 01:48 PM | #291
Quote: Originally Posted by Miallen View Post
No, they said they are lowering the drop rate on "Champion Gear Drops"...that's it. Read again.



Huh...
Yep, okay then. Misread.

Bioware did it right this patch.
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Grantdawg
02.02.2012 , 01:49 PM | #292
Quote: Originally Posted by GabeAmatangelo View Post
It's obvious from comments here that the patch note is not specific enough, so we'll get it updated before the patch goes to the live servers. Here are some specifics:

Champion Bags now always contain 15 Centurion Commendations AND 7Champion Commendations. Battlemaster Bags now always contain 15 Champion Commendations. So Centurion gearing up progression for new level 50s is increased significantly and Champion gearing up progression will be steady.

We do still intend on adding more intro level 50 PvP items as well as change how Battlemaster Commendations operate toward the same 'steady' goal. It's just the scope of that change was more than could be done in a weekly patch as it included vendor changes, conversions to existing commendations on players already, etc.

That being said, the current interim 'gearing up' system will change significantly when we introduce Ranked Warzones (aiming for Game Update 1.2). Stay tuned for more details on that.

- Gabe
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Miallen
02.02.2012 , 01:49 PM | #293
Quote: Originally Posted by McVade View Post
Yep, okay then. Misread.

Bioware did it right this patch.
Saw your edit after my post. lol
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Nowyourdead
02.02.2012 , 01:49 PM | #294
Quote: Originally Posted by IlexGlabra View Post
Should we assume that the item costs will rise accordingly? 15 per bag seems like a lot.
LOL are you crazy, have you not seen the cost of Champ gear in tokens?

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Nowyourdead
02.02.2012 , 01:51 PM | #295
Question is now is it better to not open your bags until the patch goes live or hope for random goodness that you get that item you want. Starting to think it's better to hoard them.

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Garton
02.02.2012 , 01:51 PM | #296
Quote: Originally Posted by Heppuli View Post
If you compare full centurion to full champ, the expertise difference is not that big, maybe 2-3%. That doesn't make you lose. It's better to get more vent badges, so you get that full cent as fast as possible. And sometimes, you get that champ to upgrade some pieces.

And when you reach valor 60, you've got plenty of battlemaster bags to open, which grant you nice amounts of champion badges. What more can you ask??
Would be a oke plan to save up BM bags, the problem with this is that you can only have ONE battlemaster bag at any given time. And since you cannot open them until valor rank 60 your entire idea goes out the window..

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GabeAmatangelo
02.02.2012 , 01:56 PM | #297 This is the last staff post in this thread.  
The cost of Champion and Centurion items are NOT changing.

The chance for a Battlemaster Commendation to be in a Battlemaster Bag is NOT changing. It is still 25%.

To reiterate the mention in my previous post, we will be changing Battlemaster Commendation drops in a future patch toward the same 'steady' progession goal without changing the overall average time to gear up.
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Jest
02.02.2012 , 01:56 PM | #298
Quote: Originally Posted by Nowyourdead View Post
Question is now is it better to not open your bags until the patch goes live or hope for random goodness that you get that item you want. Starting to think it's better to hoard them.
Really depends on your current gear and valor rank. For someone like myself.. who is nearly 60 Valor and only missing about 2 pieces of Champ.. if this patch hits in 2 weeks or more, hoarding will do me no good. I'll be valor 60 by then.

However for someone valor rank 45 who only has a few champ and a few cent.. it may be worthwhile to wait for the guaranteed ability to pick and choose which slots for Champ and Cent.

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BDutch
02.02.2012 , 01:58 PM | #299
Quote: Originally Posted by GabeAmatangelo View Post
It's obvious from comments here that the patch note is not specific enough, so we'll get it updated before the patch goes to the live servers. Here are some specifics:

Champion Bags now always contain 15 Centurion Commendations AND 7Champion Commendations. Battlemaster Bags now always contain 15 Champion Commendations. So Centurion gearing up progression for new level 50s is increased significantly and Champion gearing up progression will be steady.

We do still intend on adding more intro level 50 PvP items as well as change how Battlemaster Commendations operate toward the same 'steady' goal. It's just the scope of that change was more than could be done in a weekly patch as it included vendor changes, conversions to existing commendations on players already, etc.
Awesome.

Quote: Originally Posted by GabeAmatangelo View Post

That being said, the current interim 'gearing up' system will change significantly when we introduce Ranked Warzones (aiming for Game Update 1.2). Stay tuned for more details on that.

- Gabe
*wince* how often are we going be changing the gear system?
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Gvaz
02.02.2012 , 01:59 PM | #300
Quote: Originally Posted by GabeAmatangelo View Post
It's obvious from comments here that the patch note is not specific enough, so we'll get it updated before the patch goes to the live servers. Here are some specifics:

Champion Bags now always contain 15 Centurion Commendations AND 7Champion Commendations. Battlemaster Bags now always contain 15 Champion Commendations. So Centurion gearing up progression for new level 50s is increased significantly and Champion gearing up progression will be steady.

We do still intend on adding more intro level 50 PvP items as well as change how Battlemaster Commendations operate toward the same 'steady' goal. It's just the scope of that change was more than could be done in a weekly patch as it included vendor changes, conversions to existing commendations on players already, etc.

That being said, the current interim 'gearing up' system will change significantly when we introduce Ranked Warzones (aiming for Game Update 1.2). Stay tuned for more details on that.

- Gabe
However with your change, this is the problem:

1. It is easier to get t1 geared than before.
2. It is harder to get t2 geared than before.
3. This is a fix that should have been done in the first week or two, because the effect now is that fresh 50s will have a harder time gearing up for pvp to a suitable level as everyone before them.

A better fix would have been the current commendation change, but slightly increase the chance for a token from what it currently is on both. Battlemaster bags should also have a change at t2 tokens, as a "booby prize" for those who aren't getting lucky with battlemaster drops.