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1.1.2 PvP bag changes.

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1.1.2 PvP bag changes.
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ReRuined
02.01.2012 , 09:33 PM | #1
Really Bioware? You just don't get it.

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The number of commendations in Champion and Battlemaster Bags has been greatly increased, and the direct item trade tokens appear less frequently in Champion Bags. This change allows players to obtain PvP gear at a steady and significantly more predictable rate with an occasional bonus.
So, to fix the issue, you are going make everyone that isn't 50 yet or just hit 50 so far behind, that they minimal chance to succeed. This change will make a ridiculous gear gap for months. The gap between centurion and champion gear is too big for this kind of change. Not to mention, you are making it even more RNG dependent. We want less RNG.

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Ashane
02.01.2012 , 09:36 PM | #2
I'm unsure if Bioware even plays this game sometimes.

I mean, I know they say they do... but they make this sound like a buff.

Really? The issue wasnt the cent coms from champ bags or the champ coms from BM bags.. both are equally useless. The issue is the item tokens not dropping.
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ReRuined
02.01.2012 , 09:39 PM | #3
Bioware needs to read this thread: http://www.swtor.com/community/showthread.php?t=245074
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Feebs
02.01.2012 , 09:47 PM | #4
The solution to this comes in two parts: now and next tier.

Now: Remove Valor requirement for battle master gear. Make it as easily obtainable.

Next tier: Come up with a not random, not a completely non-skill related grind in order to distribute PvP gear.

Right now, this is the only way to "balance" pvp in anyway. Give it up, and spend your resources on ensuring this problem never happens again. We will forgive you if you just admit your mistake.

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ReRuined
02.01.2012 , 09:50 PM | #5
Quote: Originally Posted by Feebs View Post
The solution to this comes in two parts: now and next tier.

Now: Remove Valor requirement for battle master gear. Make it as easily obtainable.

Next tier: Come up with a not random, not a completely non-skill related grind in order to distribute PvP gear.

Right now, this is the only way to "balance" pvp in anyway. Give it up, and spend your resources on ensuring this problem never happens again. We will forgive you if you just admit your mistake.
^this

I don't care if if takes 1k of each commendation or more. Just give me a way to actually control my pvp loot progression. Whoever decided RNG loot was a good idea needs to find another game genre to work in, that is not what PvPers want.
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rooklv
02.01.2012 , 09:57 PM | #6
Eh, at least I can get gear. After going through ~20 bags and having only seen the off hand token I'll take the commendations. Those I know I can use.

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Kirin
02.01.2012 , 09:59 PM | #7
This change is a terrible idea. People are already complaining that they got to Valor rank 60 with barely any Champion gear, and BW's solution is to make the RNG worse?

There is a vast difference between Tier I and Tier II PvP armor, so why gate new players off from Tier II? 50 brackets are imbalanced enough as it is without making fresh 50's work even harder (or get even luckier, rather) for Tier II.

If you want steady progression, take the RNG out of the system entirely. Until then, don't create even more barriers between players based on luck.

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Mekrath
02.01.2012 , 09:59 PM | #8
So the solution to the problem of us getting our Champion gear too randomly is to give us more useless Centurion tokens and less Champion gear?

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McVade
02.01.2012 , 10:03 PM | #9
Bioware's incompetence on this issue is, quite frankly, frightening...

PvPers: "We don't like the RNG/Luck system."

Solution: "Okay. You will now be able to gain more crappy gear at a more steady rate, but need even MORE RNG/Luck to get anything good."

PvPers: "Yeeeah, so when's Guild Wars 2 coming out?"
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ReRuined
02.01.2012 , 10:11 PM | #10
Quote: Originally Posted by McVade View Post
Bioware's incompetence on this issue is, quite frankly, frightening...

PvPers: "We don't like the RNG/Luck system."

Solution: "Okay. You will now be able to gain more crappy gear at a more steady rate, but need even MORE RNG/Luck to get anything good."

PvPers: "Yeeeah, so when's Guild Wars 2 coming out?"
Or D3. Or Tera, I'll take Korean grind fest over this any day.
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