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Official: Over 1.7 million active subs, 2 + mil sold

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Official: Over 1.7 million active subs, 2 + mil sold

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Jalden
02.01.2012 , 03:46 PM | #101
Quote: Originally Posted by Thelooney View Post
Basically, the 1.7 sub touted isn't backed up by hard data, as the only numbers EA has put out is the quarter ending 12/31/11. I myself have subbed for a second month, and second month only. Other MMORPG that ended a failure had "record breaking" sales. Rift developers have claimed over 2 million active subs, yet the way they got that number was from the number of people that were posted in their forums (lawl).
That text means two things:

- All data was not collected at exactly the same moment the numbers were released, and can have some degree of uncertainty. It is as close they can get. It do not mean it is one month old numbers.

- They will not update those numbers continuously to reflect the situation in the future.

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Scar
02.01.2012 , 03:46 PM | #102
Quote: Originally Posted by Ganix_tx View Post
Don't guess I need to remind everyone that Rift had 1.2mil subs after the first month. Look at it now. Give the game 6 months, if it still has over a million subs it will be successful.
That's not true.

Rift had 1 million "accounts" the first month (which TOR had 2 million prior to even the early access).

Rift didn't hit 1 million subs until a few months later in August after a March release.

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Vengeful_Deity
02.01.2012 , 03:46 PM | #103
Quote: Originally Posted by ShonaChaos View Post
It's funny how some people believe these numbers to be true.
A company can get numbers to look however they want to by adjusting the parameters of measurement.
The company I work for makes up numbers all the time to make things look good. The shareholders only want to see what looks good on paper, whether it's the truth or not.

Some people just have no idea how businesses these days operate.

Anyone who thinks this game held at least 85% of subscribers is nuts.
Do a quick test for those of you who are in large guilds.

What percentage of people are still playing in your guild. If the number is over 25% I'd be shocked.
Do you work for Enron?

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CupieFoxtail
02.01.2012 , 03:47 PM | #104
Quote: Originally Posted by ShonaChaos View Post
It's funny how some people believe these numbers to be true.
LOL.
Do you honestly think that they can lie to their stockholders?
is a gunslinger

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DragonAgeOrgins
02.01.2012 , 03:47 PM | #105
Quote: Originally Posted by ShonaChaos View Post
It's funny how some people believe these numbers to be true.
A company can get numbers to look however they want to by adjusting the parameters of measurement.
The company I work for makes up numbers all the time to make things look good. The shareholders only want to see what looks good on paper, whether it's the truth or not.

Some people just have no idea how businesses these days operate.

Anyone who thinks this game held at least 85% of subscribers is nuts.
Do a quick test for those of you who are in large guilds.

What percentage of people are still playing in your guild. If the number is over 25% I'd be shocked.
It's also amusing how people brag online about doing illegal thing's to a group of strangers to try to counter an argument brought to solid investors and yet they still deny this as "padding" making up. It's as if they cannot accept this game will not do well without their express say so.

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oursacrifice
02.01.2012 , 03:48 PM | #106
Quote: Originally Posted by knightblaster View Post
They're counting active subs as of now -- which means it's a mix of people who are in their free month (bought the game after 1/1) and people who are in their first paid month -- not necessarily retention amount.
No, they aren't.

Those types of press releases are for quarterly results - they are not results of actual real time that exact day and minute numbers. Please learn how companies conduct business. Invest in something at the very least so you can get reports of your own and realize that they are never about here and now, but what the company did over the last quarter.

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Blotter
02.01.2012 , 03:48 PM | #107
Quote: Originally Posted by seallone View Post
http://www.mmo-junkies.net/statistics/

You do the Math's. Stats for population, If above is true, Then Dam. What a shame.
You clearly don't understand what you're looking at if you think that data shows that the sky is falling. It shows that in the first month, server population over time started out at a massive spike and slowly dropped as it is stabilizing and finding its level. This is to be expected for all sorts of reasons, not least of which is that 2M units sold AT XMAS WHEN EVERYONE COULD SPEND ABOUT A WEEK OR SO PLAYING NON-STOP ALL AT THE SAME TIME. Attrition was about 300K, so 1.7M active subs are ongoing, but that means a slight drop in server populations is to be expected. That is what the graphs show. They don't show the end of the world as we know it.
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seallone
02.01.2012 , 03:48 PM | #108
Quote: Originally Posted by Jalden View Post
Those graphs actually support an increase from one million to two million players. I bet you can never figure out why!
Yearly overall population graph for SW:TOR servers, How you get 2 mill, ?

http://www.mmo-junkies.net/statistics/

Just under 300,000. or

300,000 mill. ? What ?

Not being Rude but please explain.

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mobow
02.01.2012 , 03:49 PM | #109
Quote: Originally Posted by Mekrath View Post
I'm not hoping the game fails or anything, but 1.7 million subscriptions out of 2 million sales as pretty close to a 100% retention rate which I would find very hard to believe even for the most amazing of games.
yum pretty close to 100% retention would be 1.95 out of 2 million. In fact 1.7 out of 2 million is closer to 85% retention.
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Jalden
02.01.2012 , 03:49 PM | #110
Quote: Originally Posted by ShonaChaos View Post
What percentage of people are still playing in your guild. If the number is over 25% I'd be shocked.
Prepare to be shocked: 100%.