What does the 1-49 bracket teach us about PVP gear?

13.5% expertise is a 27% damage spread in practice. If you both start at 100% damage, and you gain 13.5% expertise, you do 113.5% damage and you take 86.5% damage. That is a 27% damage spread. In terms of TTL in PvP, that is extremely important, and increases every point of healing you receive by _atleast_ 27% in efficiency. I am not 100% sure on the math, but I have a feeling the value grows as the expertise does (ergo: the "DR" on expertise actually only combats its increasing value as far as survivability goes).

The same situation exists in WoW - PvE gear has more damage stats, but PvP gear has resilience. Resilience has only one facet in wow - damage reduction - but still it is by far the greatest TTL tool in WoW PvP.

Ok where to start...

Solo kill if you get lucky I guess

Killing blow usually
2.5 heal
5k heal as a tank? someone is using the Frozen Water Exploit

1k Defender 3k Defender not an option to Commando's

300k Damage done - once I get Full BM gear perhaps... Now I am lucky to break 200k and I am usually in the top 3 damage dealers for my side.

I just finished a typical Warzone.

I will admin I was unlucky but I got 1 medal, 75k Damage

no killing Blow, no Solo kill

the next highest damage done on my team was 57k so I was top Damage dealer.

Heals - no even as a Commando I usually die to fast to take the 2.9 seconds it takes to cast a heal for a shot at the 2.5 heal medal

So 5 Commendations total of 30... No one votes for MVP's...

While most of the imp's when I targeted them had over 7 medals showing..

Once again the Have's vs the Have Not's and once again you are clueless in your assuptions

20%??? WHAAAAAAAAAAAT????

Dude im pushing 600+ expertise and I only have 12%!!!!! I want whatever gear you are talking about, as not even full battlemaster gives that!!!

Um... I think you are confused... With my Cube equiped my Expertise is 590...

590 expertise =

+11.37 Damage Boost in PvP
+11.37 Damage Reduction in PvP
+11.37 Healing Boost in PvP

11.37% Damage boost + 11.37% damage reduction does not equal 22.74% or 20% damage boost like you claim.

If I earn 30% more than you, and am 45% richer than you, that does not mean my wage is 75% more than yours...

Your logic confuses me...

Your servers playerbase is obviously of poor standard... Even the ungeared people who I pug with when my guildies aren't on score well over that in damage and in medals 99% of the time...

You can't blame that on PvP gear and the expertise stat...

Understand these clowns dont know anything of Columni or Rakata gear... of they did they would understand why their logic is fail. I'm a marauder and in my Columni and Rakata gear my HP sky rockets in comparison to my Champ stuff! My Armour goes through the roof as well, and so does my crit chance... It becomes insane with only every 4th or 5th shot NOT being a crit. And my crits doing +67% damage I see the output of Rakata being MUCH higher than the +11.37% damage I get with expertise of 590 from my PvP set up.

In this guys case you are right, he is blaming gear, not the fact that his faction is performing crap. But as I earlier mentioned its easier to point the finger at others rather than look and realise the issue is actually yourself or your performance.
This is a textbook example.

Most of the time I do as well, I range from 150k to 200k

Good matches I hit 250k I don't think I have ever hit 300k

but then again 273 Expertise I didn't get my Battlemaster gear leveling against level 10 Scoundrals trying to see what PvP is all about...

I am having to earn it now, as my Expertise improves so does everything from my damage to my surviveability.

i personally believe the biggest issue is the gap I see between sides, BW can't fix that unless they take a Server with Massive Republic Pop and lower Empire pop and merge with it's counterpart of more Emp and less Rep - then perhaps things could be balanced...

but consider this

When the game was released you could essentially buy Expertise gear from a vendor for next to nothing.
They stealthily removed that - but some people knew and leveraged it.

Then they had it so Valor and Commendations were close between wins and loses so everyone was getting mass points and people would just sit in a pvp zone doing nothing - literally nothing but not going Linkdead for points - so they nerfed points if you lose.

Once again the early conformers got to rack up mad points and valor.

There used to be a single PvP pool, so your level 50 of one side was killing your level 20 of the other once again causing issues.

This not only gave the early level 50 toons an advantage it caused a MASSIVE number of people on the opposing side to simply give up on pvp entirely.

Now several weeks later you have people that casually leveled up hitting 50 with Zero expertise and valor around 30ish competing against Battlemasters and War heros with a massive amount of Expertise.

Once again if you are on the side that wins all the time it's great you level your Valor quickly and get into full Champ gear in 2 weeks, if you are on the side getting beat down you have a few VERY few willing to trudge through the mess and try to get the gear but most of the time you get new level 50's that try PvP for a day or two and give up.

meaning not many people are in the Queue at the level 50 tier from one side, the other side gets better and better at PvP - Not just because they get gear but they get practice fighting against other battlemasters, then they fight against the other side and it's like taking candy from a baby...

Read this last post above you are reading my post as if gear is the only issue.

The original post I actually said Gear is not the Core issue, a single Stat called Expertise accounts for a huge amount in this game - as I said before if you doubt me duel a buddy with it on and then again with it off and see how it affects things.

Expertise is the Straw - not the camel

The camel that broke is due to extremely poor planning on BW's part during the early stages of the game creating a MASSIVE distance between the "Active Sides" and the Casual sides.

This opened a gap between the Factions and when you get newbies going against Battlemasters and War hero's slaughter is going to commence - regardless of how good you think you are if you cannot bridge the gap this gear creates you create an environment where those with the gear think its great - aka you two losers - and the rest of us trying to break into your market.

An analogy since you seem to have a hard time grasping this...
You take two salesman and say the world is your market go sell.
One uses an Autodialer and calls thousands of people per hour getting 100k clients the other goes door to door and gets 100 clients
then you compare the cash each brings in - obviously the guy with 100k clients brings in more cash.
Wait it gets better - then you say Autodialers are illegal and you cannot use them you must go door to door.
Well Salesman 1 still has a 100k client base and Salesman 2 still has a 100 client base.
Wait a week and once again compare the results - gee for some reason Salesman 2 just can't seem to catch up to Salesman 1 - no matter how hard he works, no matter how much time he puts in he cannot close the gap.

how do you fix it?
People are saying to fix this issue is SWTOR the best way is make expertise gear easier to get.
I am saying lessen the effectiveness of Expertise gear (take away some of the salesman 1's clients) to level the playing field for everyone.

this is very player friendly mmo where getting pvp gear is too easy from doing pvp so I do not understand why the so called "skilful, ungeared, pve, casual" *cough* carebears keep crying about getting owned by the "unskilled" pvpers in full bm or champion gear.

ok fine these "skilful, ungeared pvers" players want pvp gear to be nerfed or to be closer to the top pve gear. ok that is fine, but let us all also make gear obtained from doing solo quests as good at the raid gear shall we, lets get rid of the orange gear at the corellia vendor and replace them with purple gear equal to rakata gear for the same price, after all its all about skill right, and it does not matter if u got it from killing a raid boss or the last elite boss in a solo instance.

^he won, until the system is fixed things won't change