What does the 1-49 bracket teach us about PVP gear?

How do you buy gear off the PVP vendor without doing PVP? Hmmmmm.

If you read the posts we've been typing in full, its a "beginner" pvp set for fresh 50's that haven't PVPed yet.

I don't understand #3...it's acceptable that a level 49 plasters a level 20...and yet someone who is already a Battlemaster and put in way MORE time than a fresh 50 has, far MORE time than the ratio of L49:L20, somehow doesn't deserve to plaster them? That just doesn't add up.

Don't get me wrong, I don't even think Battlemasters get an instant win button. I didn't get free Ilum gear. I play Republic. I work full time, have kids. I have just about everything going against me - I still managed to get a full suit of Champ armor minus the chest without too much work. The expertise gap slowly whittled away and now I really don't care. I paid my dues, and the playing field is now even enough that the game can be considered team vs. team again, just like in the lower level bracket.

Sure, people with better gear killed me. What you seem to forget is that a lot of those people got better gear because they were better players. It's not just about time, whether you want to think that or not.

If people with better gear suck, I kill them. There's no massive invisible barrier to my success. If they earned their gear, I find out when they bash my skull in.

If I'm in a PUG, fighting a coordinated team, I shouldn't even open my mouth, because, well, I should be losing. Nobody brings up the obvious disparity between teams with voice servers and teams without them. There's a massive advantage to players using Vent, etc. There's also a mentality when people play with PUGs that they can go in and 1v1 someone. If you want to 1v1 someone go wander the worldservers...Warzones are about team play, and the coordinated team will focus down your healers and then murder you if you're not cooperating.

Best advice for newly geared 50's if you're really into PVP is to roll with good teammates, and try to learn your class better. Having the humility to admit that you need to learn more will go a long way. Even those of us that were in Beta learned more after the game launched. I'm still learning every day I play.

TLR version - no, you're playing the wrong type of game if you think you deserve free items to put you on par with someone who invested way more time, or if you think that people shouldn't be rewarded for investing hard work. The guy in Battlemaster gear that killed you wasn't a bot, even though some of them did get bags in Easy Mode - that's not their fault, it's BioWare's.

What is wrong with pvp to get pvp gear?

Crafting is pve, what will the pve crowd going to say if pvp gives token that can buy top tier pve gear or purple max rank crafting mats?

Meh, pvp at 50 is a complete disaster. I would rather re-roll and have tons of fun in the 10-49 Bracket, you know where skill actually matter.

Absolutely not. "better" players don't need gear. That's the point. And no skill hacks who happen to have a lot of free time living in mom's basement are not by definition "better players".

The better player can step into the ring with someone with the same gear as they have. And still win consistently.

How often do you PVP?

Have you tried doing so when the opposing team wins because they are doing more damage then you solely because of some code in their gear?

When fighting people who outgear you, you lose a lot. Which makes the acquisition of your own gear take FAR longer. Which is slow, and frustrating. And not fun.

I wish I could craft all my PVP gear. The Gear Bag system and the "Grind by volunteering to be the BIT%^ of everyone with less of a life then you" system is stupid too.

WZ 1-49 PvP is some of the worst garbage combat I've ever seen. It's just a 3-5 button faceroll, depending on the level of the toons involved. So bad, it's just amusing that there are peeps that love it and consider it quality PvP. lawl

So is the combat in the 50's bracket where you can rack up kills by squishing people with little to no effort who don't have as much gear as you "Quality" combat?

Wait.... are you one of those people that the people trolling this thread are claiming I made up? Well played sir!

your... kidding right? go to cenarian pvp vender for me...and tell me mods can pull out of that set? what isn't any? oh well sure is a blue set can do that to for lvl50's right? OH right there isn't...

i hope to god you were being sarcastic x3