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16 man HM Master Loot offers no Crafting Materials

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16 man HM Master Loot offers no Crafting Materials

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LordArioc
02.01.2012 , 09:01 AM | #1
Bug, I think.
Anyone else notice this?

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Remer
02.01.2012 , 09:02 AM | #2
This has happened for both 8M and 16M HMs for us. Run with people you trust and you won't need to ML.

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LordArioc
02.01.2012 , 09:07 AM | #3
Quote: Originally Posted by Remer View Post
Run with people you trust and you won't need to ML.
/sigh

Somehow, I just KNEW this would be the first response.

Its not about trust. In 16 man, there is a good chance two of the same token will drop. If two people need the token, and you are running need/greed, its easy for one guy to end up with both items. We use ML to avoid this possibility.

Let me offer you a bit advice: Anytime you do, say, or type something, say to yourself, "Am I being a dick? If this were done, said, or typed to me, would I think the originator of the action was a dick?" If the answer is, "Yes," don't do, say, or type it.

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Daovin
02.01.2012 , 09:49 AM | #4
Quote: Originally Posted by LordArioc View Post
/sigh

Somehow, I just KNEW this would be the first response.

Its not about trust. In 16 man, there is a good chance two of the same token will drop. If two people need the token, and you are running need/greed, its easy for one guy to end up with both items. We use ML to avoid this possibility.

Let me offer you a bit advice: Anytime you do, say, or type something, say to yourself, "Am I being a dick? If this were done, said, or typed to me, would I think the originator of the action was a dick?" If the answer is, "Yes," don't do, say, or type it.

Or, get this...

have only your raid leader loot and click one item at a time, that way only one item is rolled on for at a time.

turn off auto-loot.

/DICK.
"They come, marching, believing themselves equal to the army of ancients that chained me. But I am not of their time."
―The Infernal One

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Remer
02.01.2012 , 09:56 AM | #5
Quote: Originally Posted by LordArioc View Post
/sigh

Somehow, I just KNEW this would be the first response.

Its not about trust. In 16 man, there is a good chance two of the same token will drop. If two people need the token, and you are running need/greed, its easy for one guy to end up with both items. We use ML to avoid this possibility.

Let me offer you a bit advice: Anytime you do, say, or type something, say to yourself, "Am I being a dick? If this were done, said, or typed to me, would I think the originator of the action was a dick?" If the answer is, "Yes," don't do, say, or type it.
OR Have everyone that needs it, need on the first item, see who gets it and then roll on the second

Get off your high horse, you sir are being a DICK yourself

EDIT: And a hypocrite

2nd EDIT: That still does not address the fact that there are no crafting items that drop while ML is on in HM or NMM for us

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Daovin
02.01.2012 , 10:01 AM | #6
Also, Master looter is more annoying to deal with, due to the lack of in-game rolling.

Currently, using master looter makes the game more difficult.
"They come, marching, believing themselves equal to the army of ancients that chained me. But I am not of their time."
―The Infernal One

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LordArioc
02.01.2012 , 10:15 AM | #7
Quote: Originally Posted by Remer View Post
OR Have everyone that needs it, need on the first item, see who gets it and then roll on the second
This is a poor solution, as there is a very short time frame for need/greed rolls.

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LordArioc
02.01.2012 , 10:15 AM | #8
Quote: Originally Posted by Daovin View Post
Or, get this...

have only your raid leader loot and click one item at a time, that way only one item is rolled on for at a time.

turn off auto-loot.

/DICK.
Hey, that sounds like a decent solution, thanks for putting it so nicely.

Too bad this thread was about reporting a bug, and asking if anyone had experienced the same, not an open invitation for everyone to comment on how we run our raids.

We like the master loot format. We want to use it. You dont? Great, dont use it.

EDIT: Mnn.. Just to be clear: Really, no sarcasm, thanks for the idea. We'll give it a try.

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LordArioc
02.01.2012 , 10:19 AM | #9
Quote: Originally Posted by Remer View Post

Get off your high horse, you sir are being a DICK yourself
I'm sorry you are so mad. Perhaps I hit a nerve.

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Remer
02.01.2012 , 10:28 AM | #10
Quote: Originally Posted by LordArioc View Post
This is a poor solution, as there is a very short time frame for need/greed rolls.
Agreed that this is not the best solution. You only have 60 seconds to loot, but everyone should know what gear they already have and what they need from the specific boss you are on. If not, why are they even in the group?

The ML looting 1 thing at a time also works, but does not solve the problem of no crafting materials.