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Is Yoda a jedi consular or jedi knight?

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Is Yoda a jedi consular or jedi knight?

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DS_Romer
02.08.2012 , 07:59 AM | #31
Yoda was a Jedi. This consular and Guardian and what ever stuff is just made up for games. Just like all the ridiculous lightsabre forms.

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Rayla_Felana
02.08.2012 , 08:15 AM | #32
Quote: Originally Posted by DS_Romer View Post
Yoda was a Jedi. This consular and Guardian and what ever stuff is just made up for games. Just like all the ridiculous lightsabre forms.
Actually the Star Wars: Roleplaying Game was the first time Jedi Guardians, Consulars and Sentinels were created, they were later confirmed to be canon in the New Essential Chronology, when KotOR used it, they were already part of the canon.

Also, the lightsaber forms were first created in Fightsaber: Jedi Lightsaber Combat.

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PurpleMagick
02.08.2012 , 08:29 AM | #33
Classes don't make sense within the context of the films because there is nothing preventing a Sith or Jedi from becoming both a powerful combatant and a powerful force user. Yoda and Sidious were both the most skilled lightsaber combatants and the most powerful force users. Same with Starkiller, Luke, Vader, etc...

Really each individual Jedi and Sith can choose on their own if they want to focus on combat, force mysticism, or both. They aren't segregated into castes.
While classes like sentinel, consular, and guardian ARE canon, they really have no specifically defined parameters outside of the context of RPG gaming.

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DS_Romer
02.08.2012 , 08:34 AM | #34
I stand corrected. But it's still the result of a system that needs some way to define characters and put them on certain skill paths with restrictions to avoid all powerful characters. No film ever makes any mention of 'guardians' and so on.

And that doesn't stop the lightsabre forms being ridiculous.

"I'm going to learn a Lightsabre form that requires lots of silly turning, vast open space and has zero defense."

I remember reading that Shii Cho was really good against multiple opponents but not against one? Really? REALLY?

What could any Jedi possibly need other than the combined forms of Soresu and Makashi? The perfect defense and the specialist dueling skills combined.

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Rayla_Felana
02.08.2012 , 08:34 AM | #35
Quote: Originally Posted by PurpleMagick View Post
Really each individual Jedi and Sith can choose on their own if they want to focus on combat, force mysticism, or both. They aren't segregated into castes.
While classes like sentinel, consular, and guardian ARE canon, they really have no specifically defined parameters outside of the context of RPG gaming.
You used to be right, but now Jedi Path and Book of Sith are changing all of that, Book of Sith more so than Jedi Path, but I guess you'll see soon enough.

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Rayla_Felana
02.08.2012 , 08:44 AM | #36
Quote: Originally Posted by DS_Romer View Post
I remember reading that Shii Cho was really good against multiple opponents but not against one? Really? REALLY?

What could any Jedi possibly need other than the combined forms of Soresu and Makashi? The perfect defense and the specialist dueling skills combined.
Actually, that's the description KotOR II gave, which isn't the proper canon description, Shii-cho was good at both defense and offense and required someone who could adapt and react quickly, but they were not specialized and left themselves open to those who did specialize in Soresu or Djem So, hence why Luke was destroyed by Vader so quickly.

Also, using Soresu and Makashi at the same time is very impractical, they negated each other's effectiveness, Makashi was a graceful and quick type of offense, much less aggressive than Djem So, Ataru and Juyo.

Soresu could not be used with basically any other style of fighting, the whole point was an unbreakable defense with little to no effort expelled whilst wearing out the opponent and waiting for a mistake, delivering a deadly blow.

By using Makashi simultaneously, you wear out yourself and most importantly, you are leaving yourself open, defeating the point of Soresu.