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Is Yoda a jedi consular or jedi knight?

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Is Yoda a jedi consular or jedi knight?

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Alohen
02.01.2012 , 07:30 AM | #11
Quote: Originally Posted by ManOSteal View Post
this^

while everyone's points about Yoda being a consular makes some sense Yoda was a master of the Ataru form....that alone would make him a jedi knight sentinel.
I think in the films, Jedi had no advanced classes :P

It was Jedi and Sith. like you said, He had amazing force sensitivity, but was also a master of Ataru, as was Qui Gon Jin, who was in theory a Guardian/Consular too? so Just a Jedi then.
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Luckmann
02.01.2012 , 10:21 AM | #12
Game mechanics has nothing to do with the lore.

But just for reference, Yoda was trained as a Consular, but also rose to be a swordmaster of the order. But he was a Consular.

The fact that Shadows count as Consulars is purely a mechanical construct, by the way; In the context of game mechanics, he's clearly a Sage.
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Hambunctious
02.01.2012 , 11:38 PM | #13
Yoda can melee with a single light saber, and kick butt. Consulars can't.

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TrueNovaZero
02.02.2012 , 03:48 AM | #14
He was a Jedi BAMF.

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Artein
02.02.2012 , 05:37 AM | #15
And Luke was using Force Choke in RotJ, he was clearly a Sith Warrior.


No.

The game is using artificial restrictions with skills, weapons and armors. It's good for the sake of balance but bad when you take it too seriously.
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Synti
02.02.2012 , 07:51 AM | #16
Quote: Originally Posted by Artein View Post
Game mechanics =/= Actual lore.

Movies/books/comics/whatever characters are not divided into classes. Yoda was a Jedi.
QFT.

Computer and table top games divide players into classes and subcategories to widen the game play experience. In reality and lore however, there is no need to do that. Yoda was a jedi, just like Dooku was a sith; however, both incredibly skilled at swordplay and with deep understanding of the force.

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Luckmann
02.02.2012 , 08:39 AM | #17
Quote: Originally Posted by Hambunctious View Post
Yoda can melee with a single light saber, and kick butt. Consulars can't.
Yeah, they can.

Just not as a matter of game mechanics.
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Kalstang
02.02.2012 , 08:55 AM | #18
Yoda was just yoda. At the time of the first episode he was 800+ years old. 900 when he died. I would imagine in that time he could have mastered both the Knight and Counsular side if you want to pigeon hole him into game terms.

But no matter where you put him...he kicked butt.

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Leonick
02.02.2012 , 08:55 AM | #19
Trick question...
Speaking in "proper lore" rather than game mechanics a Jedi Consular is a Jedi Knight (just like guardians and sentinels). But yes, Yoda was a consular.
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HessuVee
02.03.2012 , 05:31 PM | #20
Regardless of game mechanics being quite different from actual lore, the different Jedi classes do apply to all Jedi in Star Wars. Yoda was a Consular, his wisdom, mastery of the Force and green lightsaber color (even though this is not a rule) all point to that fact.

Someone pointed out he was a master of the Form IV: Ataru. Yes, in fact he was a master of all seven forms of lightsaber combat, except Vaapad, the modified version of Form VII: Juyo. Only Mace Windu and Sora Bulq reached mastery of Vaapad. Yoda earned the title of Swordmaster in the Jedi Order.

This game makes all Consulars and Inquisitors look bad in that it seems none of them know how to use their sabers. They don't even use any of the combat forms. When in truth, every single Jedi are at least proficient with Shii-Cho and more often than not many different forms.

Kit Fisto, a MASTER of Shii-Cho, was also a Consular. Do you see him using a lot of Force powers, standing away from a fight to throw stones or to heal others? No. He was a master of combat and actually one of the best swordsmen in the Jedi Order. His skill with Force powers manifested through his excellent use of Force Speed and his unique ability to manipulate water through the Force. As a Nautolan, water was a close element to him.

Bah, I always ramble in these posts... anyway, don't think that only Guardians know how to fight. It may be what they do best, but all Jedi surpass any normal being in swordfight, whether Guardian, Consular or Sentinel. It's just sad the skills in this game do nothing to reflect this.