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Please, Don't Roll on Items for Another Class in Your Team

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Please, Don't Roll on Items for Another Class in Your Team

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Shadowkai
01.31.2012 , 02:34 PM | #381
Quote: Originally Posted by Setanian View Post
Guidelines are just that, guidelines. They are not fact/law/rules or anything of the kind.

But, you are taking them as such, and anyone who does not agree with you is not grouping with you. because, as we all now by now, you dictate what others players have to do if they want to group with you.
That is correct. I have a choice who I group with, as do you. We'll just both have to go our own way and play in a style that suits us.

So like I said, I'm just a different type of gamer than you. No one but you can dictate how you will play.
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Irusan
01.31.2012 , 02:34 PM | #382
Quote: Originally Posted by Shadowkai View Post
That seems to indeed be the case with this crowd.

[Need]
In a nutshell, yes. I am starting to think they are just eloquently trolling and I am bored at work so I am allowing myself to BE trolled. I manage to gear my companion pretty decently from solo content and the GTN. Rolling need for her (Kaliyo) doesn't really cross my mind in groups. If a thing with her stats did drop and there wasn't a BH in the group I would ASK if it was OK to need it for her. And if not, I would be fine with the luck of the greed roll. And if I REALLY wanted that piece for her I would offer to buy it from whoever did win it if they weren't going to use it. Alt rolls? Same thing. But in the world they are trying to create, just NEED on everything, if a companion cant use it you may have an alt that can. Or you may make one someday.

I mean really, do the basic rules of life need to be taught here? Sharing? Doing the right thing is it's own reward, folks, and karma is a m*******cker.

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Varghjerta
01.31.2012 , 02:34 PM | #383
Quote: Originally Posted by Setanian View Post
Again, false assumptions. I notice how you omit the part where you want to dictate what the rest of the crowd do..
I would say you are pretty alone ................................

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Setanian
01.31.2012 , 02:34 PM | #384
Quote: Originally Posted by jterlecki View Post
That is pretty much the system our guild uses. Now we have it written as a guild rule (including what constitutes a need), and each new member is explained how we work and operate. If you are having problems with guildmates, then make sure rules are written in stone (or durasteel).

However, with PUGs, I wish you the best of luck. Now I have been mostly fortunate and did not have any overtly greedy individuals in my parties, but I know they are out there. However, sadly, you won't be able to prevent people for rolling NEED on everything. Best you can do is remember their names and if they pop up again, don't include them in parties.
if someone rolls need consistently, one would say greedy git. But! even so, they got a chance to roll like everyone else, and they won.

If I'm in group and someone is pressing need every roll, then sure as heck, as soon as i notice it, I ask, and then roll need too.
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ikinai
01.31.2012 , 02:35 PM | #385
Quote: Originally Posted by dannomite View Post
Etiquette threads are really pointless. A good memory and an ignore list are the ways to go here.
Someone with good etiquette doesn't ignore people. I have never had a problem with loot. If I didn't win a roll, my loss, no big deal. It's just pretty pixels. I move on. I also don't black list people over loot, to me that is simply childish behavior. Again, I simply move on with my time.
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Shadowkai
01.31.2012 , 02:36 PM | #386
Quote: Originally Posted by Irusan View Post
In a nutshell, yes. I am starting to think they are just eloquently trolling and I am bored at work so I am allowing myself to BE trolled. I manage to gear my companion pretty decently from solo content and the GTN. Rolling need for her (Kaliyo) doesn't really cross my mind in groups. If a thing with her stats did drop and there wasn't a BH in the group I would ASK if it was OK to need it for her. And if not, I would be fine with the luck of the greed roll. And if I REALLY wanted that piece for her I would offer to buy it from whoever did win it if they weren't going to use it. Alt rolls? Same thing. But in the world they are trying to create, just NEED on everything, if a companion cant use it you may have an alt that can. Or you may make one someday.

I mean really, do the basic rules of life need to be taught here? Sharing? Doing the right thing is it's own reward, folks, and karma is a m*******cker.
And I'd be happy to group with you
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Setanian
01.31.2012 , 02:36 PM | #387
Quote: Originally Posted by Varghjerta View Post
I would say you are pretty alone ................................
I'm the only one of the entire player base that thinks no-one has the right to dictate terms to other players?

The fact this thread is in it's 3rd? incarnation proves you wrong.
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crica
01.31.2012 , 02:37 PM | #388
Quote: Originally Posted by Irusan View Post
I mean really, do the basic rules of life need to be taught here?
Nope - but obviously, ppl need to be able to read your mind and know what loot rules you would prefer to use if they group with you, because you sure as heck are not going to speak up and let them know.

/rolls her eyes

Most ppl I know do not consider grouping with players who play a video game for a different reason then they do a waste of time - as long as they are willing to play the rules of the game and do not negatively impact the game for anyone.

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Shadowkai
01.31.2012 , 02:37 PM | #389
Quote: Originally Posted by Setanian View Post
if someone rolls need consistently, one would say greedy git. But! even so, they got a chance to roll like everyone else, and they won.

If I'm in group and someone is pressing need every roll, then sure as heck, as soon as i notice it, I ask, and then roll need too.
Why would you ask? Don't let them dictate how you play the game! Right?
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Eldren
01.31.2012 , 02:39 PM | #390
Quote: Originally Posted by Shadowkai View Post
Why? Anything is a valid Need with your playstyle? Loot for credits. Loot for mods. Loot for companions. Heck, loot for friends and guildies you play with as they are certainly a factor in your success in both PvE and PvP!

Wouldn't that be a BIT hypocritical to suddenly raise concern about how someone else is playing the game?
Nice way to misquote me there. So let's put down what I actually said in its entirety with the portion you quoted:

Quote: Originally Posted by Eldren View Post
This last instance is about the only time I'd be inclined to say something, and I still might not, because other players still get to determine their needs better than I can.
Sort of blows your attempted deconstruction of my perspective out of the water now, doesn't it?

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