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Please, Don't Roll on Items for Another Class in Your Team

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Please, Don't Roll on Items for Another Class in Your Team

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VanorDM
01.30.2012 , 05:30 PM | #181
Quote: Originally Posted by StonySpider View Post
I assure you the only resistance you'll get is from the pavement.
Well to be fair, there's wind resistance as well... Not that it will help much.

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StonySpider
01.30.2012 , 05:31 PM | #182
Quote: Originally Posted by Loendar View Post
Why? This isn't a game about respect it is all about me and how I choose to play. You are just here to facilitate a needs to an end and my companion is just as important to my game world as you are to yours.
Yes, a Massively Multiplayer Online game, is about YOU, and how YOU play.

I suppose the rest of us are all just annoying NPCs then?

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Galbatorrix
01.30.2012 , 05:32 PM | #183
Quote: Originally Posted by Creed_Buhallin View Post
This gets brought up a lot, but I don't think it's valid.

If I'm a healer Merc, should I be able to roll on a blaster that's a DPS upgrade? I'm not going to be dealing damage in a flashpoint, so my increased DPS doesn't count. But I doubt anyone here would raise an eyebrow an a Merc, even a healing one, rolling on a new blaster drop. The same could easily be said for anyone's armor or Endurance but a tank - assuming the run is going well, nobody should be taking much damage, so should they not be allowed to roll for those items because they won't count for anything?

Most stats that increase DPS will also increase your heals. So, bad example.

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Loendar
01.30.2012 , 05:33 PM | #184
Quote: Originally Posted by StonySpider View Post
Just because there isn't anyone stopping you from doing it, doesn't mean you should.

But, if you somehow don't see that, you should think about jumping off a building, I assure you the only resistance you'll get is from the pavement.
This is literally my favorite comment ever.

I should apologize to you Stony because you came into this conversation way late and have no idea that I'm just going along with the most vocal majority and professing their views without all the couching they put around it to appear rationale.

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Cartumandua
01.30.2012 , 05:33 PM | #185
Quote: Originally Posted by CBGB View Post
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It's not your fault when someone acts without consideration, even if you didn't give them guidelines ahead of time.

Clarifying loot rules may be a wise practice (on p. 71, Caille recommends a 'loot macro'). But not doing so doesn't make poor behavior your fault. And a loot-grabberwon't be banned or punished by Bioware.
Sorry, I disagree. If you fall to discuss, then you risk someone with weird ideas acting on those ideas.

If there are no agreed loot rules, there are NO AGREED LOOT RULES.

See how that works?

You would like, and I would like, in a perfect world for their to be no crazy people, but this isn't a perfect world, and we both know it isn't a perfect world, so if we assume it is a perfect world, then it is significantly our fault if we are disappointed.

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StonySpider
01.30.2012 , 05:34 PM | #186
Quote: Originally Posted by Creed_Buhallin View Post
This gets brought up a lot, but I don't think it's valid.

If I'm a healer Merc, should I be able to roll on a blaster that's a DPS upgrade? I'm not going to be dealing damage in a flashpoint, so my increased DPS doesn't count. But I doubt anyone here would raise an eyebrow an a Merc, even a healing one, rolling on a new blaster drop. The same could easily be said for anyone's armor or Endurance but a tank - assuming the run is going well, nobody should be taking much damage, so should they not be allowed to roll for those items because they won't count for anything?
Well if there's a class in your group that actually uses blasters to do damage then yeah, he probably would get more use out of it than you would.

It's not like we give welfare money exclusively to millionaires (at least, we shouldn't), it goes to who needs, it (heh).

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Varghjerta
01.30.2012 , 05:35 PM | #187
Quote: Originally Posted by Loendar View Post
Why? This isn't a game about respect it is all about me and how I choose to play. You are just here to facilitate a needs to an end and my companion is just as important to my game world as you are to yours.
Actually not in groups then it just isnt about you,

if you havent understood that the people in youre group are real people, While you are trying to do the content to advance further into just group content.

But it seem you are a very me me me me me person so i just say that i do disagree with that kind of mindset while teaming up with other real life players, basicly rolling need on everything you can possible use or even just disensemble or sell it for money because you can roll need for it and it can facilitate a need is just not valid in my opinion

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Creed_Buhallin
01.30.2012 , 05:35 PM | #188
Quote: Originally Posted by Galbatorrix View Post
You obviously have not been in this conversation long. Plenty of people arguing your side have said it's none of anyone's business how they roll and what they win.
I could be wrong (and if I am, I apologize) but I believe the general sentiment behind that is it's not your business to DECIDE how I roll. Most of the people in this thread have explained how and what we would actually roll on, multiple times. I have a hard time seeing that translate into an "Yeah, I rolled need, and I don't care if you want to know why I'm not going to tell you" response.
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The rest of what you said is dribble. More hyperbole that only proves further that you're just trying to justify your mass greed and entitlement (nothing dropped for ME, so I'll take this Guardian's chest piece for the plus 2 Endurance, Yar!).
Dude, calm down. You're really just making stuff up at this point. I treat each item individually. If the Guardian's chest has mods I can use, then yes, I believe that qualifies as "need". It could potentially even mean a bigger improvement than what the actual Guardian would get out of it, which is a reality you seem resolutely blind to. Oh, and I never say Yar! Unless it's Talk Like a Pirate Day, of course, but even then I usually only get one in for good form.

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Nice, you already have it worked out for when you get black listed. Good to plan ahead I guess.
Yeah, I actually snuck into Bioware's office about six months ago and hacked that into the code - they had planned on just having the surname, but I knew that if I couldn't hide it I'd be in trouble.

Or, maybe I just know what the options are, and thought the whole thing through a little, which is more than the "We'll know your legacy name, so you'd better not make us mad!" crowd has actually done.

Really, I'm just trying to help - you're working so hard to intimidate people into your way of thinking, I hate seeing all that effort going to a plan that just won't work.

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Creed_Buhallin
01.30.2012 , 05:36 PM | #189
Quote: Originally Posted by StonySpider View Post
Yes, a Massively Multiplayer Online game, is about YOU, and how YOU play.

I suppose the rest of us are all just annoying NPCs then?
You need to ignore Leondar, Spider - he's just trolling.

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StonySpider
01.30.2012 , 05:36 PM | #190
Quote: Originally Posted by Loendar View Post
This is literally my favorite comment ever.

I should apologize to you Stony because you came into this conversation way late and have no idea that I'm just going along with the most vocal majority and professing their views without all the couching they put around it to appear rationale.
Apology accepted, and now we can skip gleefully into the flashpoint filled sunset, secure in the knowledge that no matter what people think they'll find a way to work it out.