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Romance leads..to the Dark Side

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Romance leads..to the Dark Side

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GnatB
01.30.2012 , 01:46 PM | #11
Quote: Originally Posted by DragonAgeOrgins View Post
Isn't it a bit hypocritical? Early in the Jedi Quest line I was faced with

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The most wrong point about that is if you *accept* their bribe you get less dark points than if you don't.

You get like 50 points if you accept their bribe. 100 if you don't.

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Calsetes
01.30.2012 , 01:46 PM | #12
There is a simple solution to this:

Gray Jedi.

We get to do whatever we want, and can say it's because we're gray.

"Why'd you kill that guy!?!?" "Sorry, man - I'm a Gray Jedi."

"You should have killed that killer!" "Sorry, sir - I'm a Gray Jedi."

"We should be romantically involved!" "Sure, babe - Gray Jedi all the way!"

You will not believe how many people I've killed on the Esseles because I simply wanted to get some fresh air, and I'm still a savior of the universe (even moreso than Flash "AAAH!" Gordon.)
The average person thinks he isn't.
-Anonymous

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Chronin
02.05.2012 , 09:58 AM | #13
I am playing my Jedi Shadow as a pure and full LS Jedi. I don't see how being in a relationship is considered ok. Attachments are very dangerous to a Jedi and could put them on a path to the Dark Side. What if your wife/girlfriend is captured or killed? Would you be strong enough not to become emotional or angry? How about feeling like revenge?

Whether or not Jedi in some of the novels or even in this game are married, I just don't see how it's acceptable. A Jedi's duty is also to the Republic first and foremost. He would have to neglect his family quite a lot to truly be a Jedi which seems pretty selfish.

Anyone else feel this way? Most forum posts I've read seem ok with the romance idea and people really want it. Feels so wrong to me though.

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Lord_of_Stone
02.05.2012 , 10:04 AM | #14
Quote: Originally Posted by DragonAgeOrgins View Post
I just started a Jedi after being bored with running the same mobs/side quest's again for the second time. Thankfully the Republic have a whole new host of missions. I was discouraged to learn that "Romance, attachment" and pretty much all emotion is forbidden. Am I to assume.

if I play a Jedi, I cannot have a romance? many this is why the shrink in republic forces
I dont know about the Jedi Knight but......

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Now as for romance and the Jedi itself, there are some instances of it happening without adverse affects. In the movies, Kit Fisto and Aayla Secura fell in love, but the council separated them. Something similar happened to Satele Shan as well, and even ended up having a son from the affair. They too were separated, but it was a mutual decision.

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Lord_of_Stone
02.05.2012 , 10:11 AM | #15
Quote: Originally Posted by Chronin View Post
I am playing my Jedi Shadow as a pure and full LS Jedi. I don't see how being in a relationship is considered ok. Attachments are very dangerous to a Jedi and could put them on a path to the Dark Side. What if your wife/girlfriend is captured or killed? Would you be strong enough not to become emotional or angry? How about feeling like revenge?

Whether or not Jedi in some of the novels or even in this game are married, I just don't see how it's acceptable. A Jedi's duty is also to the Republic first and foremost. He would have to neglect his family quite a lot to truly be a Jedi which seems pretty selfish.

Anyone else feel this way? Most forum posts I've read seem ok with the romance idea and people really want it. Feels so wrong to me though.
I would agree with you, but so far that hasnt been a scene where the Jedi Council actually sees a romantic act between the player character and a companion. As far as we know, romances with Jedi are without the councils knowledge (for now.... ), and thus we can only assume the Jedi council would still look down upon it. Love itself isnt neccessarily a Dark Side act, it is the emotions that follow love that are inherently dark sided; greed, attachment, selfishness, etc.

Romance between Jedi was pivotal to the Old Republic universe as well. The romance between Bastila and Revan was exceedingly important to the events of KOTOR one, and was a very compelling story to be added to the star wars EU.

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jd_now
02.05.2012 , 10:23 AM | #16
"Romance leads..to the Dark Side"

Wish you had let me know before I got married ....

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dashspeed
02.05.2012 , 10:30 AM | #17
You guys are all ignoring the fact that ROMANCE IS NOT FOR THE JEDI.

Just QUIT whining about it. Light Side Jedi should NEVER have any romance/love in their lives. That's how it is and ALWAYS was. Don't bend the game/story/SW universe because of you think you deserve everything no matter what choices you do.

See? People kept whining that DS/LS options had no impact. And now we clearly have proof that THEY DO, and you're STILL WHINING.

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jontyld
02.05.2012 , 11:00 AM | #18
Yeah, jedi aren't supposed to get attached, so it seems reasonable that you'd get dark side points for straying from the path.. Even so, its not like you're going to end up with sith corruption or anything, its a few points you can make back up in Eseless later. And thats only if you care about LS5, which really isnt needed for anything anymore

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Maaruin
02.05.2012 , 11:30 AM | #19
Quote: Originally Posted by dashspeed View Post
You guys are all ignoring the fact that ROMANCE IS NOT FOR THE JEDI.

Just QUIT whining about it. Light Side Jedi should NEVER have any romance/love in their lives. That's how it is and ALWAYS was. Don't bend the game/story/SW universe because of you think you deserve everything no matter what choices you do.

See? People kept whining that DS/LS options had no impact. And now we clearly have proof that THEY DO, and you're STILL WHINING.

In the Jedi Consular story you meet a Jedi Master and later his daughter who is a Jedi herself. The Council treats it as nothing special.

So I would guess that at this time it is possible to get a marriage permission from the council. Maybe there are some consequences, but they won't force you to end the romance.


I think if you are light side romance may lead you more towards the dark side. If you are dark side, romance may lead you more towards the light side. Makes sense, romance is just... human/[insert species].
"I was one of many. We were servants of the dark side… Sith Lords, we called ourselves. So proud. In the end we were not so proud. We hid… hid from those we had betrayed. We fell… and I knew it would be so."
-Ajunta Pall

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MerkSauce
02.05.2012 , 11:33 AM | #20
Romance your hand...you have a choice. Right or Left.