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I can't take the pointless travelling between planets...

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Surakis
01.31.2012 , 05:34 PM | #801
Quote: Originally Posted by Goretzu View Post
Clearly you never did if you actually believe EQ1 had the same issues being discussed in this thread.
EQ had load screens every new zone you entered. SWTOR has less as it is the planets that have the load screens and not the individual zones.

My guess is you haven't really played either.

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StrawberryMochi
01.31.2012 , 05:34 PM | #802
I feel the same way as the OP, +1 to you sir.

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Goretzu
01.31.2012 , 05:35 PM | #803
Quote: Originally Posted by Goreson View Post
This is what you keep saying... without actually explaining how this is (supposed to be) true!

The mechanic of having to load a location (ship, planet) will always be there, this is the way that BW designed the game: load 'sections' instead of loading the whole galaxy.

The fact that BW has set their mind on having multiple sub-zones within the spaceport zone (hangar, airlock/elevator, (main) concourse) was BW's design choice reflecting how they consider a spaceport to look like.

That they actually placed some quest NPCs in some of these sub-zones is a perfectly understandable choice: use the space you got.

But what makes you say that the whole design is an artifect of the story system is quite a riddle for me?!

Honestly, can you tell me when you actually met a Quest NPC in the elevator/airlock between hangar and concourse?

Up until then I'll kindly ask you to please removed that BS that you are dropping all over the place. Thank you.

Indeed it would be difficult to fix it completely.

But then the solutions suggested remove the symptom without changing too much else.

As I've repeated said it's win:win.


(and yes I've has a few stories in those places, but that's the point the stories are rare, travelling is all the time).



Quote: Originally Posted by uebermann View Post
How is it grossly exaggerating?

People want to take the immersion pieces out of the game. So why stop at travel?

Call it a red-herring or grossly exaggerating or whatever you want, but its the same in IRL law. Once you open those flood gates...

WoW is a good example. People complained for years and years about dual spec. It finally goes in and what do you see the very next day? "We need tri-spec!"

Give people an inch and they want a mile
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There is no mile.

The complaints are the same again and again in thread after thread.

The solutions are easy enough and don't really change anything other than solving the main symptoms.
Real Star Wars space combat please, not Star Wars Fox! Maybe some PvP and flight too?
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Droidlife
01.31.2012 , 05:35 PM | #804
Quote: Originally Posted by AHierophant View Post
You know how I know you're from WoW?

This was a conscious decision by BioWare. Making you go aboard your ship was done intentionally so that you'd actually use your ship. Otherwise, you'd never go in it, and you'd race to the forums to make threads titled "Spaceships R useles fix NOA".
And this here is another example of how BW's story/rpg tunnelvision made them near blind to what makes the mmo genre tick.

Are you having a happy happy fun time entering and leaving your ship? Mabey a little half turn every now and then to throw a glance over your shoulder and marvel at its grandiosity?

No, I didnt think so.

It's not like youre in there hours on end deckin the place out with cool furniture and what not. The ships are totally pointless, as it stands.
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Surakis
01.31.2012 , 05:36 PM | #805
Quote: Originally Posted by Buur View Post
Dude, you are taking a position you don't even support just to continue to troll. But at least we have exposed the troll in this thread.
I know you hate having your position stripped down to its logical parts because it exposes the silliness of the argument.

If tedious is reason enough, it's reason enough. But we all know that it isn't.

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Khyler
01.31.2012 , 05:37 PM | #806
Quote: Originally Posted by Silvaro View Post
Lets say I am in one city and I want to travel to a different city. I have to get in my car drive down the road.... you getting my point. You ppl and your "I want to just click and go here, then click to go there." Maybe MMOs aren't for you.
You are missing the point. If we wanted a "real life" experience, we would either role on an RP server or actually, just do RL. We want fantasy and fun. The game itself is a time-sink, we don't need one inside it. Now, had this time-sink been similar to the old SWG starports, where you could socialize and dual, or even pvp while waiting on your transport, maybe that would be different. But these are all about 80-90% private instances. Don't need them in an MMO.

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Goretzu
01.31.2012 , 05:38 PM | #807
Quote: Originally Posted by Surakis View Post
EQ had load screens every new zone you entered. SWTOR has less as it is the planets that have the load screens and not the individual zones.

My guess is you haven't really played either.


Again though what is this thread about?

Loading screens at zone boarders? Nope.


Pointless loading screens followed by a bit of running and another loading screen at every travel nexus? Yes.

Even when EQ1 brought out PoP you didn't have to run through 4 screens to get from A to B.

The EQ1 (vanilla) equivalent would be run.... loading screen... run... loading screen.... run each and every time you zoned.
Real Star Wars space combat please, not Star Wars Fox! Maybe some PvP and flight too?
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Mandrax
01.31.2012 , 05:39 PM | #808
Quote: Originally Posted by BriGuyRedFive View Post
+1. You should be able to hearth to another planet, pure and simple.
I would be happy just to be able to quick travel to my ship.
Space, is big. Really big. You just won't believe how vastly hugely mindbogglingly big it is. I mean you may think it's a long way down the road to the chemist, but that's just peanuts to space...

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Buur
01.31.2012 , 05:39 PM | #809
Quote: Originally Posted by Surakis View Post
I know you hate having your position stripped down to its logical parts because it exposes the silliness of the argument.

If tedious is reason enough, it's reason enough. But we all know that it isn't.
You've stopped making sense. Maybe go eat some dinner.

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Arrys
01.31.2012 , 05:40 PM | #810
I think while levelling they are ok and functionally work. Post functionality why?

Kaliyo does have a line I loved - A little bit of Drummond Kas on ......

Think she says it ina tat outpost.

Way I feel in every space station so I get it. But with all the quest triggers dependent on the travel system holo calls etc....