if you want to invite me to party, ASK ME first.

Some objectives take 5-10 minutes to re-spawn. If another person is there waiting and you decline their group then that's a bit of a selfish and dick move on your part. It's not like the challenge of going solo would never arise again.

Well your sitting here YELLING at people and in previous post calling them names so something tells me you do care and your just upset no one is agreeing with you.

Im about as social a player you will ever find in game with strangers.
I doubt there are many out there as open, friendly, welcoming to total strangers and accepting to grouping REQUESTS

So If I understand the meaning behind this and agree with it, Gotta say you just trying to play devils advocate (poorly) or just argueing for arguement sake here. Its not a hard concept to understand.

What you dont seem to be understanding is you still need to make the REQUEST.

You inviting someone is not doing THEM a favor as you like to think.
Its YOU asking for the group to help YOURSELF, not them

That kid that whined "WHY WONT YOU HELP ME" other day on Ord, he was the one dieing, not me. I didnt die once solo and was handleing my content quite fine. He wasnt. So if he wants a group, all he needed to do was ASK.

If I was dieing or outmatched (Literally impossible to be at same level content in this game btw), I would have ASKED over general or sent those around me a tell asking if I could join. Because it would have been for MY OWN NEEDS, not theirs.

But this thread can be summed up in a old but very true statement

THERE IS NEVER A BAD TIME TO BE POLITE AND HAVE MANNERS!

I know the new to MMO crowd (7 years and under players) dont understand allot of standard traditional MMORPG stuff but this isnt WOW and your bargin basement WOW society and structure doesnt fly here. Time for you to come to the real MMORPG world were there are established rules and standards players are expected to follow.

Just like in any society, club, culture.

Time for you all to start learning them.

ALWAYS ASK FIRST!

Or... and this is the tricky bit, have some common sense and realise that quite a few people would rather know what you want to group up for before you invite them.

Think of it this way, if YOU (anyone) wants help with something, why should the other person have to be the one to ask why? It makes no sense.

The times I have accepted blind invites the person who invited has never said anything like "hey, gunna hit this boss" or mission etc. So if the people who send blind invites want it to become acceptable then they need to meet us in the middle. If someone accepts a blind party invite tell them what it was for.

Hey, if they have the decency to ask first then I don't mind at all.
The "dick move" (as you term it) is thinking it takes a long time to type "/s party?"

EDIT: Also, 5-10 minutes wouldn't hurt anyone. If someone cannot wait 5-10 minutes then they need to re-evaluate their life.

i normaly if i see poeple looking for a boss or a elite for a quest, i just send a say or a tell(depending on how many) and noraly i get a ok, make group and kills guy, we all get credit and all good. takes a full 30 secs to /s "hey want to group up for mob x?" simple, polite and works 99% of time. ^^

The later is what I was impying. I don't care if people dont take the invite =P

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True. I do think some are making a mountain out of a mole hill here in their reaction to it.

Given I doubt even half the people playing have read them. yeah for some that description would apply.

Just because you and I know about them doesn't mean the average gamer does or cares about them.

Hell I doubt even half log into or care about game forums either.

I surely understand this issue, but however i find it even more rude when you ask to for a group, to do quests and for social points sake whataver and they wont even respond, while doing the same quests then you... at least say hey i wanna do it alone... but it happen to me just this, he didnt even respond to me, then i ask in general if someone was inetersted in grouping to do quests and to earn social points, another dude responds to me saying he would like to and was a good ideia, but he was ahead of me in questing so another time, and i say ok, in meanwhile the previous dude that didnt respond to me in the first place resolves to respond in general chat saying NO... what a hell?! how rude is that?!