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if you want to invite me to party, ASK ME first.

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if you want to invite me to party, ASK ME first.

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bigheadbrandon
01.29.2012 , 12:44 PM | #21
if its a situation where speed is necessary and we both know what's going on then ya i invite without saying anything because its a mental bond me and strangers have when we both want the same thing

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sotaka
01.29.2012 , 12:45 PM | #22
I wonder if the OP is a traditional FFXI player. There's just something that makes one more warm and opening when people actually send a message - or perhaps it's just the fufillment of a social action that gives us faith that the party can communicate and work as a cohesive unit. Either way, I agree completely... I wouldn't join from a blind invite.

This goes doubly so for Guild Invites, and honestly they are both looked at in the same light to me.
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DirtyDozen
01.29.2012 , 12:45 PM | #23
Quote: Originally Posted by uteboy View Post
For me, depends on the situation.

If we're all standing around waiting on a spawn that we have to kill, just invite me already. I've had several groups that have formed, killed the mob and disbanded without so much as a word.

If I'm out questing in the world and you want me to join your FP, or you need a hand with something and your randomly working your way down the who list, then ask me first.
This is what I was thinking to reply then I read your post.

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Kabjat
01.29.2012 , 12:45 PM | #24
Quote: Originally Posted by Sabarok View Post
The only time I send out a team request without asking is when there's a mob being camped that can be shared and it appears obvious to both of us that we are both camping the same one. Since it can spawn at any time, speed is useful. Don't want to team? Decline, I'll not send it a 2nd time. I'd expect others to do the same to me, sending a team request once I arrive at a boss spawn site. I also fully expect the team to dissolve afterwards.

I also don't think there's much need to ask if you're in a dedicated quest area. My brother and I were doing a 2-man heroic on Dromund Kaas the other day. As we were fighting the boss, a lone Assassin showed up and helped us kill it. I asked my brother if he was willing to run it again, and we invited the assassin and ran it again. I don't even remember the assassin asking for help, or us offering. The invite was the offer.

Repeated invites, that is quite rude. Invites out of quest areas or for distant quests without asking, also rude.

I have never received a blind invite for a team that wasn't doing a quest for where I was already standing at the time. There have been times in other MMOs where I got blind invites as I passed through an area, but I just decline those and move on. I didn't think of them as rude since they thought I was on the same thing they were and were offering efficiency. Doesn't happen often since most players would rather just focus on their own quest and compete for the kills.

Again, I agree with this. That type of instance, quick inviting is appropriate.

But in a quest hub, where time or respawns are not of the essence, I really don't understand why people ninja-invite. Honestly, does it even occur to them the possibility that the player they are inviting may have already done the heroic? if I don't respond to their LFM spam in general, then why would I all of a sudden decide I need to group with this person just because he invites me?
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Revenaught
01.29.2012 , 12:47 PM | #25
Kabjat I read your signature and it made me so sad I'm crying. Please rectify that sad situation before playing any further.

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Deewe
01.29.2012 , 12:47 PM | #26
Quote: Originally Posted by Kabjat View Post
I have taken the liberty to circumvent the obvious retorts to my post with the following hypothetical questions:

"If you don't wanna be invited to groups, you should just go play a single-player game."

No. I don't mind being invited to groups. What I do mind is someone inviting me to party without showing me the courtesy of ASKING me first if I wish to party with them.

"Turn on auto-decline group invites if you are such an anti-social person. Gawd, it's an MMO, people group to do stuff."

I love to group with people in order to meet a common objective. In fact, I am usually quite enthusiastic to party up with other players...provided they are willing to behave in a social manner themselves by being POLITE. It's RUDE to ninja-invite. Is it so hard to WHISPER someone and ask them if they even WANT to do the same thing you are doing?

And incidentally, I HAVE toggled auto-decline after today...didn't even know it was an option till my husband showed me. It cheeses me off that I have to and that people are so socially stunted that they can't be bothered to ASK first.

I'm all for efficiency. But when someone just spams me with his party invite without any regard to what I may be doing, it just makes me NOT want to party with him on principle alone. Like, even if I do want to do the same thing he wants to do, Saving Face, Personal Challenge, whatever....if he sends an invite without asking first, it's a forgone conclusion that I will NOT group with that person.
Totally agree with your post.

What I'd like to see is the following client side option:
"Request invite message from player's invites"
So if a player is sending you an invite he's going to have a mandatory input box pops up, to which he can select cancel = drop invite or fill it in and send the invite.

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cyberxeit
01.29.2012 , 12:57 PM | #27
Every declines party invite do the more people ignoring multyplayers gaming in the future.
Every players who prefer solo-gaming kills SWtOR gaming community.
Every day that anyone can't find party make decision to cancel subscription easier.
So, come on, play like its solo-game but do not whine that server population decimate after several months.
It's simple but weird people can't think about it.

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Kabjat
01.29.2012 , 12:59 PM | #28
Quote: Originally Posted by Miragee View Post
I had someone who was either following me or doing the same quest. He invited me EIGHT times before I finally whispered him and told him to stop. Seriously if you do it once and it's declined, obviously that person doesn't want to group. Annoying them only lands you on the ignore list.

Even doing it once is foolish IMO. If you don't talk, neither of you knows if the other person is actually doing a quest you want/need to do.

My only exception is that if it's obvious you're both going after the same boss. Instead of racing to see who gets him first (and making the other person wait for it to respawn), it's better to try to group up.
Yep.

I think most everyone is in agreement here. When you have a big boss spawn and it's obvious everyone needs it, then whispering is cumbersome. Just invite xD

I guess my beef this morning was getting the ninja invite from someone who has no idea if I even need the quest still. I would have helped him without hesitation if he'd just asked.

I got invited to a group the other day and I accepted without thinking because i was in the middle of combat in fah'thra's palace. I say in party, "What do you all need?"

"About to go do heroics."

I say, "I just got here...still need to do all the missions here."

"Oh....well, we just finished here. come with us now and you can do this later."

.....

"Later y'all...have fun." /leave group

I mean REALLY? They ninja invite me to start off with, which only irritates me. THEN they tell me to drop what I'm doing to help them do the heroics? Hopefully this type of thoughtlessness isn't the norm.
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Are you playing TOR on an Atari Potato?

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Kabjat
01.29.2012 , 01:05 PM | #29
Quote: Originally Posted by cyberxeit View Post
Every declines party invite do the more people ignoring multyplayers gaming in the future.
Every players who prefer solo-gaming kills SWtOR gaming community.
Every day that anyone can't find party make decision to cancel subscription easier.
So, come on, play like its solo-game but do not whine that server population decimate after several months.
It's simple but weird people can't think about it.

Well, I am of the opinion that rudeness is what sends the SWTOR community in decline. It's really not hard to show a bit of courtesy.

If you had read my post you would see that I clearly stated that I LOVE to group with people. I really do. I love to connect with other players. What I don't like is how entitled and inconsiderate some players can be in these situations. I'm not talking about a mass invite to kill a big elite that everyone in zone OBVIOUSLY needs. I'm talking about blindly inviting players to party when you have no way of knowing what that player is currently engaged in or even if they NEED to accomplish the same objective as you. Maybe they already did that quest for the day. A simple, "Hey you wanna do Saving Face?" would take all of 2 seconds. And even if I had already done it, I would say, "Already did it, but I would be happy to help!"

THAT fosters community. Right there, I likely have someone I would add to friends list.
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Surakis
01.29.2012 , 01:08 PM | #30
Quote: Originally Posted by Kabjat View Post
Well, I am of the opinion that rudeness is what sends the SWTOR community in decline. It's really not hard to show a bit of courtesy.
I think you've redefined rudeness and courtesty to be doing things the way you want them to be done....