Please upgrade your browser for the best possible experience.

Chrome Firefox Internet Explorer
×

if you want to invite me to party, ASK ME first.

STAR WARS: The Old Republic > English > General Discussion
if you want to invite me to party, ASK ME first.

Jazhara's Avatar


Jazhara
01.29.2012 , 10:49 PM | #251
Typically, just today, the following happened:

On Nar Shaddaa, Nikto sector, there is a bonus mission that ends with killing a pretty tough elite. At least, he can be tough to solo.

I come running up to the location and see him up. There is a Jedi Shadow standing there, ready to pounce, so I invite him to group up while standing right next to him so he can see I'm out for the same goal as him.

Instead of accepting the invite he rushes to attack the elite, and declines the invitation. I sigh and roll my eyes, casually watching him fight alone...

...and die - with the elite still half-health.

This would be the point that I say 'F it'. I charge alone (with companion), and kill the elite without a sweat (though my companion died in the process >.>), effectively kill-stealing? I can't care less.

THAT is the consequence of never accepting unannounced group invites. If you are being anti-social by declining in this situation, you deserve to wait another 5 minutes before the mob spawns again.
"It is only through interaction, through decision and choice, through confrontation, physical or mental, that the Force can grow within you." (*Kreia)
WARCHILD LEGACY - VROOK LAMAR

FourTwent's Avatar


FourTwent
01.29.2012 , 10:55 PM | #252
Im actually surprised there's not an 'anonymous' feature.

Blind invites and Spam tells to healers was pretty rampant in the last MMO I played, but there was a way to be anonymous so you wouldn't show up as online in the who/friends list.

JeremyDale's Avatar


JeremyDale
01.29.2012 , 10:56 PM | #253
Quote: Originally Posted by Kabjat View Post
I have taken the liberty to circumvent the obvious retorts to my post with the following hypothetical questions:

"If you don't wanna be invited to groups, you should just go play a single-player game."

No. I don't mind being invited to groups. What I do mind is someone inviting me to party without showing me the courtesy of ASKING me first if I wish to party with them.

"Turn on auto-decline group invites if you are such an anti-social person. Gawd, it's an MMO, people group to do stuff."

I love to group with people in order to meet a common objective. In fact, I am usually quite enthusiastic to party up with other players...provided they are willing to behave in a social manner themselves by being POLITE. It's RUDE to ninja-invite. Is it so hard to WHISPER someone and ask them if they even WANT to do the same thing you are doing?

And incidentally, I HAVE toggled auto-decline after today...didn't even know it was an option till my husband showed me. It cheeses me off that I have to and that people are so socially stunted that they can't be bothered to ASK first.

I'm all for efficiency. But when someone just spams me with his party invite without any regard to what I may be doing, it just makes me NOT want to party with him on principle alone. Like, even if I do want to do the same thing he wants to do, Saving Face, Personal Challenge, whatever....if he sends an invite without asking first, it's a forgone conclusion that I will NOT group with that person.
I support this message. At least ask first before you just invite someone, as it's very annoying and pushy when you don't. I've had experiences with this myself, especially if that person doesn't have his looking for group icon up.

Vodalus's Avatar


Vodalus
01.29.2012 , 10:57 PM | #254
Quote: Originally Posted by Jazhara View Post
Typically, just today, the following happened:

On Nar Shaddaa, Nikto sector, there is a bonus mission that ends with killing a pretty tough elite. At least, he can be tough to solo.

I come running up to the location and see him up. There is a Jedi Shadow standing there, ready to pounce, so I invite him to group up while standing right next to him so he can see I'm out for the same goal as him.

Instead of accepting the invite he rushes to attack the elite, and declines the invitation. I sigh and roll my eyes, casually watching him fight alone...

...and die - with the elite still half-health.

This would be the point that I say 'F it'. I charge alone (with companion), and kill the elite without a sweat (though my companion died in the process >.>), effectively kill-stealing? I can't care less.

THAT is the consequence of never accepting unannounced group invites. If you are being anti-social by declining in this situation, you deserve to wait another 5 minutes before the mob spawns again.
I don't disagree. I also don't think the OP or most others who agree with the OP would disagree. We've already covered this scenario and all (most?) agree that this isn't the issue.
I'm not a hater, I'm a disillusioned and disappointed fan.
"I spent a good 5 or 10 minutes searching around the preferences because I was sure a feature like this would not have been omitted."- A simple quote that I have seen countless times; This is what is wrong with TOR in my book.

Kabjat's Avatar


Kabjat
01.29.2012 , 10:59 PM | #255
Quote: Originally Posted by Jazhara View Post
Typically, just today, the following happened:

On Nar Shaddaa, Nikto sector, there is a bonus mission that ends with killing a pretty tough elite. At least, he can be tough to solo.

I come running up to the location and see him up. There is a Jedi Shadow standing there, ready to pounce, so I invite him to group up while standing right next to him so he can see I'm out for the same goal as him.

Instead of accepting the invite he rushes to attack the elite, and declines the invitation. I sigh and roll my eyes, casually watching him fight alone...

...and die - with the elite still half-health.

This would be the point that I say 'F it'. I charge alone (with companion), and kill the elite without a sweat (though my companion died in the process >.>), effectively kill-stealing? I can't care less.

THAT is the consequence of never accepting unannounced group invites. If you are being anti-social by declining in this situation, you deserve to wait another 5 minutes before the mob spawns again.
*nods* I agree with you. O.o

Pretty much everyone who's posted here does.

I didn't say as much in my OP, but I have accepted blind invites and given out blind invites in a situation such as the one you described.
Quote: Originally Posted by Thaltom View Post
Are you playing TOR on an Atari Potato?

Sureth's Avatar


Sureth
01.30.2012 , 12:05 AM | #256
Jazhara, Jazhara ..
Necessity for speed, obvious clarity as to the why and the need for overall efficiency in such a case, make this a non-issue.

The OP has already stated many times that in such a scenario, there's nothing wrong with a blind invite.

People disagreeing with the OP, have already stated that in such a scenario, there is nothing wrong with a blind invite.

People agreeing with the OP, have already agreed that in such a scenario, there is nothing wrong with a blind invite.

Basically everyone in this thread, has already agreed that in such a scenario, there is nothing wrong with a blind invite.

I think people from other threads are already agreeing, that in such a scenario there is nothing wrong with a blind invite, too : D


/edit All joking aside, I'd most likely have done the exact same thing as you did. Nor would I have felt sorry for the Shadow in that case.

Syntakk's Avatar


Syntakk
01.30.2012 , 01:23 AM | #257
Agreed 100%

I cut my teeth on FFXI, and blind invites were HIGHLY discouraged. It's just polite to ask someone if they want to join you. I'm not anti-social, but maybe I don't feel like grouping at the moment, or maybe I don't have time to commit to a group. My playstyle is often interrupted every few minutes to take care of my young son, so most of the time I can't be part of a group because I'll just be standing around while the other person is doing all of the work.

Take a few seconds to send a quick message and ask if I'd like to join. This is supposed to be a social game after all.

Vodalus's Avatar


Vodalus
01.30.2012 , 01:41 AM | #258
Quote: Originally Posted by Syntakk View Post
Agreed 100%

I cut my teeth on FFXI, and blind invites were HIGHLY discouraged. It's just polite to ask someone if they want to join you. I'm not anti-social, but maybe I don't feel like grouping at the moment, or maybe I don't have time to commit to a group. My playstyle is often interrupted every few minutes to take care of my young son, so most of the time I can't be part of a group because I'll just be standing around while the other person is doing all of the work.

Take a few seconds to send a quick message and ask if I'd like to join. This is supposed to be a social game after all.
I get the impression that many here don't use social the way you (and I, and likely the OP. . .) use the word. I think they believe a social simply means "multiple player avatars in one location". It is often used to justify things such as limiting the GTN to fleet and capitol world only; "they need to force a social hub" . . . where people can stand around near each other doing their own thing, such as browsing the GTN interface.

Personally, I feel a social hub should be constructed such that it encourages people to interact, not simply to herd them into one area. Just as I feel that talking to each other, including asking before inviting, is being social when grouping, not simply filling a spot in the game mechanic that recognizes joint accomplishments.
I'm not a hater, I'm a disillusioned and disappointed fan.
"I spent a good 5 or 10 minutes searching around the preferences because I was sure a feature like this would not have been omitted."- A simple quote that I have seen countless times; This is what is wrong with TOR in my book.

Surakis's Avatar


Surakis
01.30.2012 , 01:51 AM | #259
Quote: Originally Posted by Saitada View Post
Blind invites has always been considered rude in the online gaming community for as long as I have played.
Must have missed the memo or the secrete MMO rules meeting.

Varghjerta's Avatar


Varghjerta
01.30.2012 , 01:53 AM | #260
Quote: Originally Posted by Kabjat View Post
I have taken the liberty to circumvent the obvious retorts to my post with the following hypothetical questions:

"If you don't wanna be invited to groups, you should just go play a single-player game."

No. I don't mind being invited to groups. What I do mind is someone inviting me to party without showing me the courtesy of ASKING me first if I wish to party with them.

"Turn on auto-decline group invites if you are such an anti-social person. Gawd, it's an MMO, people group to do stuff."

I love to group with people in order to meet a common objective. In fact, I am usually quite enthusiastic to party up with other players...provided they are willing to behave in a social manner themselves by being POLITE. It's RUDE to ninja-invite. Is it so hard to WHISPER someone and ask them if they even WANT to do the same thing you are doing?

And incidentally, I HAVE toggled auto-decline after today...didn't even know it was an option till my husband showed me. It cheeses me off that I have to and that people are so socially stunted that they can't be bothered to ASK first.

I'm all for efficiency. But when someone just spams me with his party invite without any regard to what I may be doing, it just makes me NOT want to party with him on principle alone. Like, even if I do want to do the same thing he wants to do, Saving Face, Personal Challenge, whatever....if he sends an invite without asking first, it's a forgone conclusion that I will NOT group with that person.
/Signed
Well written post