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if you want to invite me to party, ASK ME first.

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if you want to invite me to party, ASK ME first.

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Anionix
01.29.2012 , 03:32 PM | #131
Quote: Originally Posted by mrcaptainpants View Post
To use your party analogy, imagine if it were commonplace to receive party invitations in the mail that said nothing more than:

Party.
My house.
Right now.

Um...what kind of party is it? Is it a birthday party? Is it a costume party? Is it a Tupperware party? How long will this party last? Do I need to bring something?

That's what a wordless invite is like.
Firstly most people ask if you would like to come to a party before deeply indulging into what kind of party it is, hardly want to waste my time telling them for five minutes if they are going to say no anyhow...

Secondly you're not spending an hour dressing up as a drama queen, you're simply clicking a button...

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Kabjat
01.29.2012 , 03:34 PM | #132
Quote: Originally Posted by Goshnye View Post
Interesting, isn't it, Kabjat, that MMO's -- supposedly games frequented by people looking for social experiences -- are actually frequented by a not small number of socially-awkward people. I agree with you completely, inviting without asking first is rude. But for people to understand this issue you're raising here would require some modicum of social cognizance -- lacked by many of those who replied to you.
Yeah, seems you are right! However, I do try to keep my replies civil first in hopes of learning where they are coming from, and second, to keep the discussion on track. I am guilty of answering rudeness with a sharp tongue >.< but I'm trying to work on that! xD

If you saw my posting history you'd laugh because I have spent a lot of energy trying to 'one up' people to try and prove them wrong or whatever. Waste of time and energy lol...now, I see that never helps the discussion, only makes it worse.
Quote: Originally Posted by Thaltom View Post
Are you playing TOR on an Atari Potato?

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Kabjat
01.29.2012 , 03:40 PM | #133
Quote: Originally Posted by Anionix View Post
Firstly most people ask if you would like to come to a party before deeply indulging into what kind of party it is, hardly want to waste my time telling them for five minutes if they are going to say no anyhow...

Secondly you're not spending an hour dressing up as a drama queen, you're simply clicking a button...
I believe the analogy was to illustrate a point. If you don't agree with the sentiment, that's fine, but surely you can see the connection? I'm the type of person who wants to know why I'm being invited to group. I want to know up front.

Not really difficult to supply that info, but if the one doing the inviting is not keen on telling me or just wants to assume we are on the same objective, then it's likely it's a person I won't enjoy playing with anyway.
Quote: Originally Posted by Thaltom View Post
Are you playing TOR on an Atari Potato?

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SwiperNoSwiping
01.29.2012 , 03:44 PM | #134
My problem is that many of you are trying to impose what you're idea of proper behavior entails. People are raised in many different cultures and generations with different ideas of what is acceptable. Someone else may not view it as rude to invite someone that is looking for that flashpoint without psting them. You expect everyone to behave the same as you and to change to fit what you believe to be proper, instead of the other way around.

To say that you're idea of what is proper conduct is better then someone else's is Arrogant and an example of Cultural Absolutism. You weren't raised like them and have no right to judge they're behavior. Its all about perception and the sooner you understand that everyone is differen't the sooner you might understand why they may not pst you first.

Of course many of what I just said, is thrown out when they behave in a way that can harm or hurt someone else.
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mrcaptainpants
01.29.2012 , 03:46 PM | #135
Quote: Originally Posted by Anionix View Post
Firstly most people ask if you would like to come to a party before deeply indulging into what kind of party it is, hardly want to waste my time telling them for five minutes if they are going to say no anyhow...
That's a pretty subjective statement there, and not one which I feel to be true. I can't recall ever having someone invite me to a party without telling me what kind of party I was being invited to. But...maybe your experiences have been different. Okay. (shrug)

Quote: Originally Posted by Anionix View Post
Secondly you're not spending an hour dressing up as a drama queen, you're simply clicking a button...
Yes, but the same argument could be used to support the other side of this argument. You're not spending an hour typing up a 2,000 word proposal, you're simply saying "Hey, would you like to do <insert quest>?"

Pretty simple.

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tmpearson
01.29.2012 , 03:47 PM | #136
I would have to actually see other people on my server in order to turn down a blind invite.

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Kabjat
01.29.2012 , 03:54 PM | #137
Quote: Originally Posted by SwiperNoSwiping View Post
My problem is that many of you are trying to impose what you're idea of proper behavior entails. People are raised in many different cultures and generations with different ideas of what is acceptable. Someone else may not view it as rude to invite someone that is looking for that flashpoint without psting them. You expect everyone to behave the same as you and to change to fit what you believe to be proper, instead of the other way around.

To say that you're idea of what is proper conduct is better then someone else's is Arrogant and an example of Cultural Absolutism. You weren't raised like them and have no right to judge they're behavior. Its all about perception and the sooner you understand that everyone is differen't the sooner you might understand why they may not pst you first.

Of course many of what I just said, is thrown out when they behave in a way that can harm or hurt someone else.

Ok, I am going to resist the urge to become offended by your sweeping statement that everyone who has replied to this thread is out to force their beliefs and ideals on those who don't agree. I'm going to not become offended because I truly believe you mean no offense by what you say. I respect where you are coming from though. And the more I think about the entire issue, the more I think the last thing you stated is absolutely true in many cases.

Many people who just invite without pst-ing really do mean no disrespect and for me to get annoyed by it is extreme.

ALTHOUGH! And here is my although that my husband always rolls his eyes and sags a bit xD.....

Although some people ARE being thoughtless when they do this. And these are the ones that need to step up and realize there is a whole world of other people playing the game that they can interact with. Instead, they choose to play like a robot in their race to lvl 50. In my mind, it's selfish of THEM to expect others to have that way of thinking.

See where I'm comin' from? I totally agree with you to a point. I think a good meet in the middle is in order for many of us....especially if we wish to build a strong thriving community.
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Anionix
01.29.2012 , 03:54 PM | #138
Quote: Originally Posted by Kabjat View Post
I believe the analogy was to illustrate a point. If you don't agree with the sentiment, that's fine, but surely you can see the connection? I'm the type of person who wants to know why I'm being invited to group. I want to know up front.

Not really difficult to supply that info, but if the one doing the inviting is not keen on telling me or just wants to assume we are on the same objective, then it's likely it's a person I won't enjoy playing with anyway.
Like even you implied Kabjat, it all depends on the given situation. Obviously, if someone tried to group up with me on Fleet I'd flat out turn it down, but on a planet, where the intentions are fairly apparent, I'd accept before quickly checking if we're on the same level.

I think you're making too much out it, just decline their invite, people are not going to stop doing it because you said so on a forum. Personally, I don't invite without asking myself, but I certainly don't have a problem with it.

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Anionix
01.29.2012 , 03:57 PM | #139
Quote: Originally Posted by mrcaptainpants View Post
That's a pretty subjective statement there, and not one which I feel to be true. I can't recall ever having someone invite me to a party without telling me what kind of party I was being invited to. But...maybe your experiences have been different. Okay. (shrug)



Yes, but the same argument could be used to support the other side of this argument. You're not spending an hour typing up a 2,000 word proposal, you're simply saying "Hey, would you like to do <insert quest>?"

Pretty simple.
Fair enough, I accept the argument. I just don't agree with it.

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ZedFighter
01.29.2012 , 03:57 PM | #140
Quote: Originally Posted by Kabjat View Post
even MORE astounding is when you hit decline, the invite reappears....as if the player thinks that there must be some mistake or he will wear me down by attrition.

My children do that when trying to get what they want. Too bad I don't have toggle auto-decline for them too. >.<
This really cracked me up!

Yesterday I had some dbag doing this over and over. I finally put'm on ignore. Some people fail so hard at being a decent human being it's sad.