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What SWTOR will be


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Evironrage
02.28.2012 , 06:24 PM | #301
This game is good, it is not great. For this much content to be in at launch it rivals anything that has been put out in the last 3-5yrs. The launch was smooth, the lvling imho is pretty entertaining, the exploration (aka datacron hunting) is a blast, and end-game raiding is pretty fun.
That being said, pvp needs to have FOTM nerf bats and buff sticks hitting it hard, SC needs to be 3D for Coop and PvP options (instanced like this), 4/6 crew skills need to be added to so they are viable at end-game (everything but Biochem and Cybertech are basically useless), the AH "GTN" needs to be scrapped and completely redone (it is overly complex and needs simplifying asap), and they need to add a dungeon finder as frequently I have found folks get tired of spamming after roughly 30min.
There is plenty in this game that needs to be rethought and reworked. They have another 4months of my time though so I am praying, but not optimistic.
I don't discuss things as a committee, I don't care about a protocol droid's opinion, and I wish I had more time to get her excited

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xorcist
02.28.2012 , 06:35 PM | #302
Quote: Originally Posted by Xreasonz View Post
Care to elaborate on that? whats so FUBAR about this game? ive been playing this game every day since release and havnt found anything to be FUBAR, mildy annoying...maybe yes, but total broke? no
Agreed.
"There is no calamity greater than lavish desires....
And there is no greater disaster than greed
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Uruare
02.28.2012 , 06:46 PM | #303
Sarfux, while your enthusiasm for the game is nice, do you -EVER- have anything useful to say? Shilling for SWTOR on SWTOR's forum is...kinda like preaching to a choir.

Should take your cheerleading show on the road though if you want to try shilling for SWTOR to a maybe useful end. Seriously, I'm not trying to be rude, but most of us here, even if we complain...are playing the game.

Preaching about how awesome it is to folks playing the game ain't where it's at, brudda.

Just throwing that out there.

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rasbarry
02.28.2012 , 06:56 PM | #304
Quote: Originally Posted by TheSpeeGamers View Post
Dude, every MMO forum is like this. Heck a lot of game forums are like this. Check out WoW's or Rifts. Diablo III is supposedly the worst game ever if you go read the forums and its not even out, haha
You have a good point. I'm new to forum reading but it seems that there are a lot of haters that contribute to forums. So many negative people. I really enjoyed WOW for the few months that I played it and I have also been very impressed with what BioWare has done. I was very impressed to see that almost all the little things I disliked about WOW, Bioware changed it for the better.

I consider myself a casual gamer. After working all day and spending time with my family, I really only have around 6 hours a week to play games. I loved WOW when it first came out. I played the beta but never made it to the level cap. I currently have a level 30 character in SWTOR and have really been impressed. I don't base my opinion on how popular the game is or what anyone else thinks. I personally agree with the original poster. This game is already an absolute success and I hope that more people give themselves the chance enjoy it as much as I have.

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izadar
02.28.2012 , 07:01 PM | #305
Quote: Originally Posted by Razot View Post
This made my day hahah

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Evironrage
02.28.2012 , 07:11 PM | #306
Quote: Originally Posted by Mekrath View Post
Very optimistic about GW2 but I would never buy a Funcom game again. I had the pleasure of being ripped off for the launches of both AO and AoC
AoC was painfully buggy for the first 3months, but the game was pretty good once it ran smoothly. Real issue was there wasn't much to do beyond lvl20, but grindy questing. Building your guild city was pretty righteous though. AoC had real potential that was never realized.
I don't discuss things as a committee, I don't care about a protocol droid's opinion, and I wish I had more time to get her excited

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ForeverSteadfast
02.28.2012 , 07:14 PM | #307
I've never been much of an MMO fan. I've tried the EQ series, and the first GW. Never could stick with 'em after a few weeks. Just got tired of the same ol', same ol', ya know? I avoided WoW - not because I had any kind of bias against it - but because I had a few friends who played it, and never saw the light of day after becoming hooked.

That being said... I've enjoyed TOR immensely. Yes, I agree that they need more content, but I haven't encountered any game-breaking bugs, nor have I grown bored with the game. I like the combat, the visuals and especially enjoy the story. I've always been impressed with BioWare's emphasis on story (I absolutely loved the first Dragon Age and can remember good times while playing Baldur's Gate II). The writing is good - I wouldn't say great - but good. Its intriguing, although a bit predictable at times. And I feel they've done the "new age" Star Wars community some justice.

I look forward to seeing what they'll add. I didn't come into this wanting to compare it to WoW or any other MMO, for that matter. I soon tired of reading pissing matches between WoW and TOR fans (never understood the need to argue back and forth over a moot point anyway).

It disgusts me, in a way, to see just how much complaining a community can present. This idea of "entitlement" sickens me; not just within the online community, but also in society in general. I understand that folks want what they presume they paid for, but I think we take it too far when we readily ignore the good and only bring forth the bad; as if we're all special little individuals who are "owed" something. I think by now we all know that life isn't fair, nor as cut and dry as anyone would like it to be. Chin up, troopers - there are more important things in this world than a night/day cycle in an MMO.

Bottom line is, and I've seen this opinion expressed by many already, if you don't like it - don't play it. If you prefer WoW: play WoW. I'm placing my faith in BioWare because I'd like to see them succeed with this game. I think they deserve it after presenting the gaming community with amazing games. Have they made games I didn't enjoy? Yes. But the ones I have enjoyed seriously outweigh those I wouldn't play again.

And remember: this game is relatively new. An MMO is a huge undertaking which requires a steady and diligent stream of content, updates and new ideas. Give them a little more time before you throw BioWare to the wolves.

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reaperkeepet
02.28.2012 , 07:16 PM | #308
Quote: Originally Posted by Banguskahn View Post
very hungry
That's because people have waiting for that game for a long time. TOR was just the same.
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byteresistor
02.28.2012 , 07:39 PM | #309
Quote: Originally Posted by Sarfux View Post
you highly underestimate what this game offers and people don't give games a chance these days. It's sad really
You highly overestimate what the game's engine is capable of. They can only modify it to an extent, not indefinetly. I'm afraid it would require a total redo of the game for it to become the next big thing on the MMO scene. This is close to the best the engine can handle folks. In coming months/years you might see them improve fps by 5 or something in mass-scale PvP but this engine can never get it to run as smooth as in some other games. Be happy with what you got, it isn't going to be a magically different game a year from now.

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Guaza
02.28.2012 , 07:58 PM | #310
Quote: Originally Posted by archontrieste View Post
I don't know what SWTOR will be. Currently I'm really, really enjoying the stories associated with each class, and the leveling process feels like much less of a grind because missions are significantly more interesting than the leveling experience in previous MMOs I've played. That is to say the parts I'm enjoying are the parts that are more akin to a single player RPG.

And that's actually where my enjoyment of the game ends, bugs completely aside. The multiplayer experience brings nothing new to the table; in fact it feels dated. The mechanics feel just like WoW. The gear is uninspiring, nothing is unique, it's all just a linear stat progression and doesn't offer any mystique or intrigue - the feeling of getting an upgrade will never compare to the feeling of getting, say, a Ridill in FFXI, or a Nightmare battleship in EVE.
The market is stagnant, and can even be completely circumvented during level progression. The majority of crafts are borderline useless and there is no real player economy to speak of. The PvP is unvaried, lacking in long term incentive, and same old.

I think I will probably get as much as I can out of each storyline, and I really think BioWare aced the class missions and did a great job with the missions in general. But once I get bored of this one aspect of the game, I don't see a reason to stick around. As much as it pains me to say it, it's how I truly feel - RP aside this game is totally mediocre.
+1 Couldn't have said it better.