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What SWTOR will be


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Mekrath
01.29.2012 , 08:46 AM | #141
Quote: Originally Posted by Zangaboing View Post
What the hell does funcom has to do with GW2? Arenanet is developing it...
He mentioned GW2 AND Secret World, which is Funcom.

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RamataKahn
01.29.2012 , 08:47 AM | #142
Funcom has nothing to do with GW2.

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Karai
01.29.2012 , 08:48 AM | #143
Quote: Originally Posted by Uruare View Post
I can't give you a sure-fire formula for success, but I can give you a formula for failure: try to please everybody all the time.

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Wow, finally found something worthy of my sig

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Mekrath
01.29.2012 , 08:52 AM | #144
Quote: Originally Posted by RamataKahn View Post
Funcom has nothing to do with GW2.
Nobody said it did, except the for person who saw a post I made about both GW2 and Secret World and for some reason thought I was saying GW2 was made my Funcom.

Someone said they were excited for GW2 and The Secret World, and I responded that I'm optimistic about GW2 but would never buy a Funcom game again after suffering through the releases of AO and AoC.

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Thugtwo_onethree
01.29.2012 , 08:59 AM | #145
Quote: Originally Posted by Chaffery View Post
Roflmao... Who are exactly haters in your mind? If I say that game currently is unplayable garbage. Am I hater? Fans taken things it to very extreme, I see. What you trying prove?
If BW will not sort out current bugged mess, they might don't see any peoples "crawling" back.
Would you mind reposting this jargon in less hateful wording, and something more constructive? Something more intelligible. Less yoda wanna be please. Do you actually play with garbage?

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SlickDevlan
01.29.2012 , 09:00 AM | #146
Quote: Originally Posted by Faytte View Post
1) Um..do you not read many web sites? Massively forums, Giant in the Play Ground, Cursed? How about 2/3 of the post on this forum? The community has already dubbed this game a failure.

2) I was in WoW at its original release; what crack are you smoking. People were praising it because it was much more player friendly than its competition in the day, Asherons Call and Everquest. It had an actual quest system, auction house, more interesting class interaction mechanics, etc.

3) What does this game offer? People say this and I always find it bemusing.

It offers voice overs. Other games have similar plot, its just in quest text so people ignore it. In SWTOR, after 20-30 levels, you end up space barring through it.

Companions are dressed up class pets. Very well dressed up mind you, I will concede that it is 'unique'.

Space Combat is at most a mini game, other games have mini games ..

The class design is stolen from WoW, almost verbatum in certain classes cases (Sith Warrior=WoW Warriors, complete with sunder, charge(force lead), a rage mechanic system, etc).

Lets count instead how it failts


GTN is horribly implemented

PvP was horribly implemented

Operations are a joke. Most guilds cleared out EV within 2-3 days of starting it. No WoW raid was ever that easy, even the Cata starting content that players critisized heavily for being too easy (and thus leaving them with nothing to do) was not that easy.

The game lags to all **** if there are 20 + players on the screen, regardless of your system specs. This has been confirmed on a number of forums, even with INI changes and driver updates. The issue is the band game engine.

No LFG Tool (most modern games launch with this)

No customizable UI (games launch with this since 2008. Every MMO since warhammer had a customizable UI at launch)

No Combat Log (Hello Kitty Online even has this)

No Macros (Again, Hello Kitty Online even has this)


What SWTOR Offers is simple; Star Wars. And some of you are blind to this being a crappy game because ZMOG LIGHTSABERS AND DARK SIDE POINTS(Which mean nothing at all).
Every single thing you mention doesn't even come within Hubble Telescope distance from being a "requirement".

Outside of a few things they could streamline (such as GTN) and a few bugs, this game is WoW but much more interesting. I know that having smooth features (again, like a functioning GTN) would be nice, but if that is a basis for your quitting or "hating" the game you probably wouldn't like it even if the GTN worked like eBay.

Macros aren't needed, there is a LFG (it just doesn't have the insta q a group of NPCs like WoW had), and logs and customizable UI are coming. You can wait and see, or you can continue to whine, like so many other idiots, that "SWTOR isn't innovative" while simultaneously whining that "SWTOR isn't enough like old games".

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Dethrone
01.29.2012 , 09:01 AM | #147
Quote: Originally Posted by Mekrath View Post
I remember seeing posts like this in the Vangard: SoH forum not long after release.
lol yeah Vanguard. I was in beta for that and people were calling it the WOW killer.. The beta game was awful and the release game just like the beta.

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Daize
01.29.2012 , 09:01 AM | #148
I totally agree with the OP.

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USMCG_PANZER
01.29.2012 , 09:04 AM | #149
Quote: Originally Posted by Sarfux View Post
This game will continue to grow and get better as time goes on. planets will get added, more gear, more raids, more planets, more weapons, more major content, more story. This game will be the next mmo giant and the game to beat in the coming years. You just watch!
So what you are saying is that we are going to see some new planets?

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JasonSavo
01.29.2012 , 09:05 AM | #150
Quote: Originally Posted by Sarfux View Post
Star Wars: The Old Republic will be the game of the new generation. Slowly but surely it will crawl, walk, run, sprint..and just keep on going and chuggin along. BioWare will not disappoint. This is their baby and they are proud of it. They are trying so hard to please mainly everyone for the majority of the game.

This game will continue to grow and get better as time goes on. More planets will get added, more gear, more raids, more planets, more weapons, more major content, more story. This game will be the next mmo giant and the game to beat in the coming years. You just watch!

Listen guys...they are fixing lots of bugs, they are coming out with content, they will keep adding more stuff we want. This is their plan, they launched with the stuff they had and just keep on adding the stuff players want little by little to keep people coming back for more because they will keep releasing content update patches every month or close to that. I believe BioWare keeps the community at heart when releasing this content and just know they can't do everything right now.

The things that you guys want, whether it be sitting in chairs, swimming, day/night cycle, weather, they WILL come in time The heroengine is getting updates constantly and performance issues ARE being worked on! This is one of the smoothest mmos ever and the running looks VERY good. You can't argue that. The environments and running feels natural.

Great game BioWare keep it up
I'm going to respectfully disagree. This game follows the same tired formula of the last decade and really doesn't improve on anything past presentation. To call a game something akin to "next generation" there has to be some sort of improvement beyond the old system. I'm not saying the trinity system doesn't have a place, but in order to expand the market there needs to be improvements. GW2 looks more like a next generation game to me. It's not lazily regurgitating the same system we have seen in other MMOs. It's looking at the system from the bottom up and taking risks with its design.

Considering all the problems with PvP and the end game going, a lot of people are reaching lvl 50 and are wondering what to do next. Bioware needs to step it up or they will risk alienating a lot of people. Until they do, its way to soon to come on the forums like a Bioware spokesman and toot this game as the end all be all.