Damage Meter, how to get if you want?

download fraps, hit things for 60 seconds, watch it back slowly and count up the numbers that appear on the screen, / that number by 60..

I raided at high level in manys a game, raided in WoW from Vanilla to Wraths end in a server firstish guild. It wasn't all that fun apart from the friends I had in the guild.

Why? The "Elite" mindset. Fun was gone, it was all about getting the pixels with the better stats when the boss dropped. The Swagger and arrogance shown to players who didn't measure up, and instead of giving them advice or being helpful, they were usually insulted and kicked. All down to a DPS Meter.

I'm not saying im not in favor of an extra tool for players, but I am not in favor of the crowd/mindset it brings with it.

Protip: Raiding was never hard in any incarnation of WoW, on any class. It only went wrong when somebody got a phone call/sneezed/fainted or had a sudden memory lapse. When you had a mod screaming "RUN AWAY LITTLE GIRL" a second before the boss was about to do something, you didn't have to worry. You also spent the raid staring at meters instead of the fight unfolding in front of you.

Can I upvote/like/rate single posts? Because this one gets max points.

More importantly, do they think achievements in an MMO actually matter?

No No No and NO. If you want damage metres, go back to WoW. This game does not need petty little elitist dictators telling the rest of what buttons we HAVE to press during raids, and sucking the fun out of the game. If that's the type of game your after.... WoW is over there ==== >

If they cared enough to claim that they had them then yes I would say that they care. That or they are trolling.

I would at least like in the future to have a combat log that can be saved to a file and parsed and viewed like worldoflogs does.

I hate damage meters in game but while raiding I find the information these parses do to be very valuable to evaluate what can be done differently/how to improve.

Yes the game is about having fun but its less fun to have 15 other people wipe all night because someone wasn't doing what they should be doing. Sometimes this isn't something you can visually see while doing what you are supposed to do. A quick look at the logs can often give you this information. This type of information can be used to help people who aren't doing their part or sometimes identify that they need help in the first place and make raiding a fun enjoyable process.