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Something needs to be done ALREADY


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Golarz
12.15.2011 , 04:43 AM | #41
Quote: Originally Posted by Melanie View Post
I just came out of a Black Talon run, and it was me, an assassin, and three sorcerers. We had one guy who needed everything, granted i did eventually boot him, but it was til after he needed and won a sabra staff that would have been a nice big upgrade for me. I think the loot system needs to be smarter. I shouldn't be able to roll need on something i can never use.

I wonder if it's possible to fine tune that at all. It's a little ridiculous that anyone can need anything that the OTHER AC can need. At least until we can respec our ACS this needs to be changed.
There was a great system in Warhammer Online for this sort of things. In WAR you can click "need" on drop only if you can use it.
it shold be implemented in SWTOR.

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Tectonics
12.15.2011 , 06:19 AM | #42
it does kinda suck admittedly, and i hope its looked at and fixed, but to avoid problems use friends/guildmates and companions. Should fix the problem mostly

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ezrangel
12.15.2011 , 06:39 AM | #43
I never played the beta, so let me ask:

Is there anthing in this game like "Bind on Pick up" or "Bind on Equip", so people coulnd need just for selling?

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Gutrik
12.15.2011 , 06:40 AM | #44
As long as there won't be crossrealm lfg-tool, ninjas can easily be dealt by the server community.

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HumanPirhana
12.15.2011 , 08:43 AM | #45
You say he couldn't use the stuff, and maybe that was or was not the case, but I'll tell you something you might want to think about. Unless you specify as group leader a specific loot policy beforehand, I reserve the right to need on anything my companions can use, which by later in the game when we all have multiple companions might be a lot of stuff, even stuff I can't personally use. This is especially true if I don't know you, and it's a pug. What do I care if you feel you have some "right" to something my companion can use? You < my companion, if I don't know you.

Bottom line: set your loot policy beforehand and communicate it clearly to the group, then if anyone runs afoul of it, boot them. If you do, they have no leg to stand on, you were clear upfront. If you DON'T, and they roll need on everything, YOU'VE got no leg to stand on. This will become more and more of an issue as people who have different ideas of what is fair and acceptable need rolling accumulate multiple companions in an MMO where equipable pets are a bigger part of gameplay than previous MMO's
Don't make me get all green perpendicular up in this beeotch.
Yeah.
I said it.

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HumanPirhana
12.15.2011 , 08:45 AM | #46
Quote: Originally Posted by ezrangel View Post
I never played the beta, so let me ask:

Is there anthing in this game like "Bind on Pick up" or "Bind on Equip", so people coulnd need just for selling?
Yes, both are present, though BOP seems to be rare enough based upon beta that it's unlikely to help much with this sort of issue
Don't make me get all green perpendicular up in this beeotch.
Yeah.
I said it.

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Calseeor
12.15.2011 , 08:52 AM | #47
Quote: Originally Posted by Melanie View Post
I just came out of a Black Talon run, and it was me, an assassin, and three sorcerers. We had one guy who needed everything, granted i did eventually boot him, but it was til after he needed and won a sabra staff that would have been a nice big upgrade for me. I think the loot system needs to be smarter. I shouldn't be able to roll need on something i can never use.

I wonder if it's possible to fine tune that at all. It's a little ridiculous that anyone can need anything that the OTHER AC can need. At least until we can respec our ACS this needs to be changed.
I agree. This should be fixed and I'm sure it will. Other current MMOs have this sort of loot protection built in.

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nite_shade
12.15.2011 , 08:54 AM | #48
Quote: Originally Posted by Melanie View Post
I just came out of a Black Talon run, and it was me, an assassin, and three sorcerers. We had one guy who needed everything, granted i did eventually boot him, but it was til after he needed and won a sabra staff that would have been a nice big upgrade for me. I think the loot system needs to be smarter. I shouldn't be able to roll need on something i can never use.

I wonder if it's possible to fine tune that at all. It's a little ridiculous that anyone can need anything that the OTHER AC can need. At least until we can respec our ACS this needs to be changed.
I do agree, it happened on Beta, I pee'd myself laughing!! I mean, it was beta!!

But you will get the typical 'WoW' kiddy attitude for a few weeks yet... when they realise, they don't get a Kung fu Ewok, they'll run back to WoW... *fingers crossed*

Seriously thought, it happens in jsut about any MMO I've played... If I spot a player needing on everything.. so do I... then if another player requires it, I trade it to them.. job done

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Invitcted
12.15.2011 , 09:20 AM | #49
Quote: Originally Posted by HumanPirhana View Post
You say he couldn't use the stuff, and maybe that was or was not the case, but I'll tell you something you might want to think about. Unless you specify as group leader a specific loot policy beforehand, I reserve the right to need on anything my companions can use
First of all there is no way a level 10-15 SS is ever going to be able to make any use of a 10-15 saberstaff it's not going to happen sorry, The only SS compainion that can even use a staff is the voss level one. This guy is either so stupid he doesn't know what he can and can't use or a straight up cross realm lfg ninja.

Secondly your companion is not you, I don't care how important you think your equipable pet is they can't be used in operations, they can't be used in pvp and hopefully they can't effectively be used in the 'proper' flashpoints.
I don't care what sort of silly metric people like you use to justify abusing BW's obviously lacking NbG system but frankly what you are doing is exactly the same as needing on an obvious upgrade for a character in the group because you can shard it and 'I can totally use enchants'.
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Phaedrynn
12.15.2011 , 10:18 AM | #50
Between Companions and Reverse Engineering, I think any class can do *something* with almost any drop in the game.

You just need to select better group mates (or run guild only groups which is what we do).