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4h. downtime... a SATURDAY???


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GHeissi
01.28.2012 , 11:13 AM | #781
Quote: Originally Posted by Maidel View Post
OR, are well informed EU gamers who know that the TOS and EULA have utterly no basis in law in the EU/UK and thus arent worth the electronic paper its written on.
For the majority of people this isn't a legal issue anyway. It's about customer satisfaction.

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Kabjat
01.28.2012 , 11:14 AM | #782
Quote: Originally Posted by Adderdin View Post
Wow... just wow... Americans...

Racist much? WoW....I have no way to know your nationality because resentment and jealousy toward Americans is universal.

But what do you really expect? Non-Americans pretty much ATTACK the US, blaming the US for Boware's so-called short-changing them their RIGHT TO PLAY....and you act surprised that people will rise up and counter the hate-speech?

I am ASTOUNDED this thread has not been closed yet.
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MikelGoff
01.28.2012 , 11:15 AM | #783
Quote: Originally Posted by Kelenae View Post
So the best move is to not to play..... Would like a to play a game of Chess?
Oh no, I love playing the game. XD

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Kalantris
01.28.2012 , 11:15 AM | #784
Quote: Originally Posted by Part_Time_Hero View Post
why are you so rude to oceanic players?

im a us player and think your booware cheerleading is rather unwarrented at the least

a company performing a patch on a weekend for a mmo is not the norm unless it is an emergany for xploit fix and they tend to share the fix with customer base which is the bottom line here .. something you seem to not comprehend

bioware has not shared with us anything that was absolutely need to be patched on a weekend thus far that could not have waited til tuesday

end of story
There's always someone from Australia complaining about their downtimes in every single topic concerning maintenance. Sorry for my rudeness, it wasn't even his fault. It's the americans with their "get a life, it's just 5 hours" crap, that made me angry, so I'm sorry^2. Shame on me.

On topic: Lack of communication from Bioware is also an interesting problem. That's how companies work nowadays. There's always noone to blame, all you can do is shout at some random, innocent CSR, who's just as pissed off as you, because they make him work 12 hours/day for a crappy salary. I'm always amused how my business partner always manages to get a direct phone number to the company's CEO, calls him and shouts at him making him personally responsible for the matter. It doesn't usually help until our lawyers call him, but after that... everything works like a charm. Amazing . I might just ask him to do the same to Bioware .

Regards,
Kalantris
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Maidel
01.28.2012 , 11:16 AM | #785
Quote: Originally Posted by GHeissi View Post
For the majority of people this isn't a legal issue anyway. It's about customer satisfaction.
Oh 100% true - that wasnt the point I was making. I just get sick of americans saying 'well its in the eula/tos so ****' when they have no knowledge of EU law that the fact that they mean absolutely squat.

But you are right, its a customer service issue completely.

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Mormack
01.28.2012 , 11:16 AM | #786
Quote: Originally Posted by Maidel View Post
Which, by definition, isnt an EMERGENCY.

You dont turn up at a hospital in an ambulance and get told 'sorry, we have to assemble a team, it will take a few hours...'

They have server techs 24hrs a day 365 days a year. In EMERGENCIES the servers are taken down at very short notice and patched immediately.

What you posted would make a TINY bit of sense if they waited until the DAY time where the servers are, but they didnt, they would have had to call in a load of people in the middle of the night.

Are you telling me that in an EMERGENCY it just so happened that the EMERGENCY happpend exactly 8 hours before it could be fixed and that so coincidentally occured exactly 8 hours before the exact same time they take the servers down normally - 8am GMT?

Things happen on a time table. They have to get the patches working first...QA test them on internal servers and make sure the techs who actually do that patching (because if you think all them can do it, you're clearly delusional...some are more qualified than others and it requires more to patch than to maintain) before they can make an announcement. Plus, they give us the Courtesy of not just locking the servers down without warning. They give us warning and if it can fall during the normal patching hours, they do so. Just because they didn't knee jerk reaction it and "OMG SERVERS DOWN NOW!" doesn't mean it wasn't a priority fix. Emergency doesn't necessarily mean "OMG FIX 20 HOURS AGO WHY ARE WE NOT DOWN YET!?" it simply means priority 1..Fix ASAP.

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keijim
01.28.2012 , 11:17 AM | #787
Quote: Originally Posted by Mormack View Post
Blizzard also makes you buy a separate copy of the game to play with your friends from across the pond.

Bioware does not.

Bioware runs both EU and NA servers on the same client

Therefore, it doesn't make sense to bring down NA servers to patch and then do the same for EU servers later...especially since they all run the same client and you can't bring the client down to patch for certain people but not others.

There are logistics involved that entitled and uppity Europeans seem to not get. They seem to not understand the NIGHTMARE of bringing down people's clients regionally since the client isn't localized.
Trion Worlds is doing seperate patching and maintenance on Rift since launch and they didn't have an issue afaik.
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Maidel
01.28.2012 , 11:17 AM | #788
Quote: Originally Posted by Kabjat View Post
But what do you really expect? Non-Americans pretty much ATTACK the US, blaming the US for Boware's so-called short-changing them their RIGHT TO PLAY....and you act surprised that people will rise up and counter the hate-speech?.
No, they really dont - they bite back when people (who I would assume are north american based) come in and say that all europeans are QQing and should 'get a life'.

If none of those people came into these threads and said that sort of thing no one would mention the USA.

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Kelenae
01.28.2012 , 11:18 AM | #789
Quote: Originally Posted by Kalantris View Post
There's always someone from Australia complaining about their downtimes in every single topic concerning maintenance. Sorry for my rudeness, it wasn't even his fault. It's the americans with their "get a life, it's just 5 hours" crap, that made me angry, so I'm sorry^2. Shame on me.
I've seen this before... I think there is a thread of people from the EU doing the same thing

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Jahannam
01.28.2012 , 11:19 AM | #790
Quote: Originally Posted by MikelGoff View Post
So if they don't patch quickly, they are shafting customers.
If they patch at specific times, they're shafting customers.

Let's lay down the ground rules for Bioware on when they can do things, how they can do them, and so forth.
1.. Bioware can NEVAR PATCH EVAR.

2.. If It affects the time I want to play its their bad, since I have no life and cant do anything else for 4 hours i demand they hire a staff to cater to just me.

3. Not only do they need a Europe team they need one for every timezone...I mean every timezone PST, CST, EST..ect ect Why should the west coast get shafted cause of east coast time? And the other way around.

Come on Bioware set up servers and make them cater to each and every timezone on their off peak hours seperately.