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4h. downtime... a SATURDAY???


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GHeissi
01.28.2012 , 08:00 AM | #351
Quote: Originally Posted by Hajizan View Post
So what is better Emergency Maintenance with no warning or the way BW performed this maintenance? Give BW a break, no matter when they do maintenance it will be during someones play time.

Have a nice day
emergency? i could not spot game breaking stuff in the changelog.

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Amarinth
01.28.2012 , 08:01 AM | #352
It seems Bioware never learned the ground rule of MMO's:

You don't take the servers down during the weekend unless they're about to EXPLODE
We all have our heroes. And when we watch them fall, we die inside...

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Bramblerose
01.28.2012 , 08:01 AM | #353
Quote: Originally Posted by TheOnlyKyrenS View Post
jesus christ EU player, quit complaining. it 4 hours. go outside or something. its not that bw hates the EU, they just think its the best time to roll out a patch. and if its a weekend patch, then its important. would rather play a broken game or a somewhat fixed game?
It was 5 hours, as they kindly extended it, of the 8 hours I will be able to play this week. The hid the annoucement of it in a post listing a different date in the title so I was expecting to be able to play. It was working fine for the 2 hours I played last night so I am not really sure where this 'broken' idea comes from.

Yes I can do something else, but when I get a chance to have a lazy saturday morning in after hard weeks work why shouldn't I?

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NoTomorrow
01.28.2012 , 08:01 AM | #354
I hope this pattern will not repeat itself. Otherwise they are just eating on my subs time without any sort of decent compensation.

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Lascas
01.28.2012 , 08:01 AM | #355
Meanwhile, on my account's cancel subscription page....

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Reason: Customer Support

Refined Reason: Lack of support

Text:

All my tickets where replied with a copy-paste and immediately closed. No issues were solved. No GM ever tried to contact me.
I'm EU, i pay A LOT for this game, i want BETTER treatment than my US counterparts, and i'm not getting it.
So yeah, .|. o.o .|.

Oh, and maintenance on a saturday? GG!

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So yeah, i'm out in 20 days when my account expires, lets see what they do to make me stay.
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Einherjerlol
01.28.2012 , 08:01 AM | #356
Quote: Originally Posted by TheOnlyKyrenS View Post
jesus christ EU player, quit complaining. it 4 hours. go outside or something. its not that bw hates the EU, they just think its the best time to roll out a patch. and if its a weekend patch, then its important. would rather play a broken game or a somewhat fixed game?
It is not 4 hours, for me scheduled maintenance is from 9am to 17pm that is 8 hours math genius. Besides that they said it will take longer...

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Forduc
01.28.2012 , 08:02 AM | #357
Quote: Originally Posted by Hajizan View Post
So what is better Emergency Maintenance with no warning or the way BW performed this maintenance? Give BW a break, no matter when they do maintenance it will be during someones play time.

Have a nice day
Unfortunately it was useless maintainance in middle of the weekend

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JerokTalram
01.28.2012 , 08:02 AM | #358
Quote: Originally Posted by ThunderZtorm View Post
The EU servers are in Dublin, Ireland, Europe. I don't give a f... where BW's HQ is, that is completely irrellevant.

The game is OFFICIALLY released in EU. It's not like EU are playing on US servers (in which case maintenance times would be completely understandable).
Physical location doesn't matter much. They have East Coast and West Coast Servers in the US too. Does Asia have servers too? What matters is how the deployment system works. It looks like the deployment system they are using is writing out to all the servers at once (maybe staggered a bit). I am sure it's run by guys in Austin despite the server locations.

I know that when I worked for Morgan Stanley. Our deployments were done by our staff in their offices in Princeton or Halifax and the software was deployed worldwide.

Doing multiple deployments for the same software just increases labor costs. They are already paying someone to get up in the middle of the night to do deployments now. Why should they pay that person even more over time to do it twice or 3 times.

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nadokaoh
01.28.2012 , 08:02 AM | #359
Quote: Originally Posted by Amarinth View Post
It seems Bioware never learned the ground rule of MMO's:

Don't take the servers down during the weekend unless they're about to EXPLODE
someone should tell cryptic this theirs is going down in an hour

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MrWhoCares
01.28.2012 , 08:03 AM | #360
Quote: Originally Posted by Kalantris View Post
First of all I'd like to point out, that it's me paying you not the other way around. Therefore my feedback can be as much as "this system sucks. Fix it". Negative feedback of this sort is all a company can expect. I don't have to tell you how to fix your game. It's your job to fix it then and come up with ideas, that actually make sense. Which you so far often fail to do.

Second of all you really need to tone down your expectations. From day one you disregard any constructive feedback whatsoever, literally [self-censored] your customers in the face. The rage, insults and rude behaviour is the effect of your doings, so deal with it. Dealing with it by deleting posts and closing threads will only hurt you, as people need to vent their rage somewhere. They'll either unsubscribe or start venting on other forums, which are read not only by your current customers, but also the potential ones. That's how black PR works.

Third of all there is no constructive feedback to give in the subject of the maintenance system. It's obviously and carefully planned to cater your american customers disregarding Europe entirely. Server statistics show, that EU servers are a couple times busier during maintenance hours than the american ones. You could at least have the balls to admit it instead of feeding us with your worthless [self-censored] about "performing maintenance in off-peak hours". There's nothing worse than lying to your customers in the dumbest possible way and expecting them to believe it. We feel like you think we're [self-censored]. We are not. Therefore stop pissing us off with your pathetic lies and admit, that you don't give a flying [self-censored] about your european customers, which are basically half of your playerbase (based on server stat graphs). We'd have a clear view then, unsubscribe and watch your pathetic game crumble to dust while playing something we can actually play whenver we want.

Fourth of all today's maintenance was a bad joke. There are no critical updates in your patchnotes, I can see no fixes like "fixed an exploit, which allowed the attacking side to leave their spawn area before the game begins" or "fixed an exploit, which allowed players to run with the speed of light carrying the ball in huttball games". All I see are quest fixes and some class balancing changes. This could have been done any other day, but you had to pick saturday, which is, for a lot of us, the main part of the week we can play the game.

Last but not least you will not tell me how to give you feedback and I'd strongly advise you (trying to be constructive here) not to control the community on your forums like that, because that will only cause people to create unofficial forums, where they can flame you any time they feel like they need to do it. Accept the fact, that forum is a place you can actually check how the playerbase feels. In case you can't see it alread I'm going to give you a clear message: We're pissed off.

Shame I bought 60 days in advance.

Regards,
Kalantris


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