This game will be HIGHLY successful!

I think you misunderstand the argument; the issue isn't the lack of content in SWTOR - noone is asking for dozens of Flashpoints and Operations at launch. The issue is missing functionality, and Bioware certainly had the budget, developers and time to do better in that regard.

The process of constructing a product and the future changes to a product are not relevent. If I was looking to buy a car, I would not wait for things like a radio, tires, windsheild wipers, a heater, etc. to be retro fit and come out in Ford patch 1.3. It is not big surprise that a car should have tires, windshield wipers and so on. Yes the model T did not have a radio or tape deck and maybe not a heater, but a new car should have one.

No one is talking about a copy paste job, rather things that the product should have or the way it should function.

It may take time to build a game with certain features, but how long was swtor in developement in any case. If certain features are essential (like tires on a car) why was the game launched without them?

The reason that I bought swtor is my own. WOW bores me to all yaha, although I believe that the combat is exceptional and did play for a long while after I lost interest in the game in general just because the play was so smooth and felt so good. Also a point (ability delay and other issues) missing from swtor that may or may not some day be resolved.

Off to work where my customers are not so forgiving, so I have to produce at the level of my competitors and provide a functioning product.

this thread is like fresh meat for the haters

At the time that WOW launch, there weren't many quest driven mmo around. I only remember one: COH. But rushing to next contact in COH is still distinctly different than rushing to next quest hub that wow introduced. This is why wow success, the gameplay was refreshing back then. Nowadays every new mmo came out is filled with quest that hold your hands till ur ready to raid, which including this one. TBH those things that you listed, just about every mmo that came out in the last few years had it, even those cheessy Korean f2p mmo had it. The only thing unique about this game is the voice acting.

Actually, can we just stop comparing SWTOR to any other game? I mean what is the point really?? It has become obsessive compulsive in the forum. And juvenile. "My Mom's better then your Mom." "No, my Mom is better then your Mom was 7 years ago." "No, your Mom sucks compared to my Mom 7 years ago". "Hey, don't be talking about my how my Mom was 7 years ago!, you talk about her today!!" yada yada yada." Juvenile.

Are people so intellectually and emotionally constrained that they cannot set other games aside to objectively evaluate the game on it's own merits, lore, and uniqueness?

The game will be successful on it's own merits, nothing more, nothing less. How successful, only time will determine. No amount of debate in a game forum will change it one way or the other. People who enjoy the game will keep playing. People who do not will move along. Many people who move along will come back months later and give it another try (and probably beg in the forums for "so, I've been gone awhile, what's changed? Is it worth coming back to?" )

This thread is a little nicer than most of the others in General Forum. To be honest, I don't know why I read general forum at all.

Here's what I hope (and sort of what I expect):

In the past, I've played WoW and mostly Lotro. In LOTRO, they added content quite a bit, adding 'books' , which were series of quests.

The fact that the level cap is 50 (wow and lotr had 60 at launch?) is quite telling.

I think they will add new 'chapters' as part of regular releases, and then afterwards, an expansion that include new planets and hopefully races and maybe classes.

I think they drew a lot of what was kind of crappy from previous games. I used to get annoyed in wow when our mage used to sit down and drink his water on every fight. it took too long. I like the stupid self-heal we all get. it saves time. little things like this i like.

Also: in General Forum, people are talking about having 5 toons in their 40's. Add up /played for those 5 toons and what do we have? Addicted, much? These are the real hardcore players/addicts who have raced to 50 as fast as possible, and are left with nothing to do.

Slow down. Changes will happen. I bet 99% of them will be for the better (although the forums won't reflect this). People that ask for change, but they hate change really. Think of the last update devs made. Still more complaining. This will never change.

Also: this game will never be the WoW killer. Rpg genre is usually fantasy, which wow is. This is science fiction. My friend who's been playing WoW since 2004 won't play this game, because it's not dwarves/elves etc. This is a fact.

As long as this game remains profitable for this company, it will exist.

I stopped playing LOTRO about 2 years ago because my quest log got full of instance quests and I couldn't find people to do them with me even though I was in a huge guild.

Having 5 quests for once instance never made sense. I like this method better, get the ONE quest for the FP and go do it.

Ok: just general thoughts really. I have hope for this game. 1 month is NOTHING. I think this game can be REALLY judged after 1 YEAR.

It does since such a simply analogy doesn't do the process justice. If you ever want to be able to play any future mmorpg you're going to have to understand how the process works and why no one so far has relased with the same amount of content and features as WoW. The mmorpg market is brutal to say the least.
Also the analogy is still terrible, neither cars or their accesories have much in common with software.

Actually some are. That's subjective, obviously. Some features without a doubt improves the gameplay and they should be implemented into the game at some point.

It takes time, especially with a new engine. It just does. Why they chose not to have certain features at launch? No idea. Perhaps they thought they weren't nessecary, perhaps they are still working on them and making sure they work properly. Perhaps they had a deadline to keep and thus didn't have time. Who knows? They just don't and it's going to take time before those features they already want and those that players are requesting are implented into the game.

Did you buy SWTOR for the features IT advertised or not? Or did you buy the game thinking that it would have "everything" that WoW has?
If you're unable to play a game because it doesn't offer almost everything that WoW does, then you're going to have to wait for a very, very long time.

Uh-huh. Would that per chance have anything to do with software development?
Also SWTOR seems to be functioning just fine for the majority of players.

Why people cant understand something:

The true hard part is invent , implement is just code.

Now i know WoW copied many other games before and even now.
But understand that is the smart thing to do.

SWTOR should have copied the other features that already exist and then implement their new ones , be lacking on today normal features has no excuse.

Nice post OP. I find it histerical that almost the entire first page of responses were flames. I've played every mmo ever, like many here started with UO and moved on th daoc, EQ, wow and everything in between. I love the genre and have been lucky enough to follow its progression for almost 20 years now. I'm a casual player but have experienced a piece of the end game content in most mmo's.

The major argument i hear against Swtor from all the naysayers is this, well this isn't 6 years ago and we expect more more more from our gaming experience. Honestly sociologists could come to the forums and read General after ANY new games release to better understand the wacked out mindset we have.

All i hear from anyone complaing about a GAME they PAY for is I want this that and the other thing because I'm entitled to haveing the best gaming experience i can.

Guess what, noone is entitles to anything in this world especially something you are paying for and can stop paying for at anytime. Youth today and really even people my age , 31, are so spoiled into getting whatever it is they want, when something they FEEL isn't right they cry, moan, and bish about it because they can't deal with the reality of an imperfect world. Or are just to emotionally unstable and spoiled to not realize that BW doesn't turn on the servers just for them.

And to anyone flaming that , well RIFT failed and these guys failed and those guys failed because they didn't provide content or yadyadayada...guess what, Swtor it's already a huge success for many fans of the genre, irregardless of its obvious sustainability.

I'm just blown away by posters who constantly gripe and moan about their problems with a GAME. Suck it up, and if you can't your too fragile for gaming and should most likely unsubscribe and find a new hobby.

Yeah but this has the Star Wars name, don't underestimate that.