Game subs rising or dropping?

server pops are for sure dropping thou i don't really know if that means subs are dropping as well but for sure less and less people are logging on.

The only stats that I'm aware of show populations dropping around 40 percent since release.

Within that 40 percent will be some churn (new people joining balanced by people leaving), and we've also transitioned from holiday->not holiday.

Given the stupidity of the MMO marketplace these days, I wouldn't read too much into it, except that on average a server's population will be ~40% lower than a month ago.

Indeed! Shock and awe, that people can actually quit a game with valid reasons

I actually quite like the game aside from some major frustrations with lack of modern features. I'm just being realistic and acknowledging that the game was released lacking many features that mmo gamers now want to see in the mmos they play, and thus most have left. Simple as that. I do not play WoW, or any other game.

Yeah especially when then they spend all their free time on a forum posting those "valid reasons" so the rest of the population can have a laugh! That is what I call "generosity"

23 million of WoW's 10 million subscribers decided to switch? Are you sure? Because what you said kind of makes no sense whatsoever.

You (and anyone else who posts along these lines) really need to get over your WoW obsession. It does not need to "die" in order for SW:TOR to be successful and, similarly, SW:TOR does not have to "die" because of WoW. The games can, and in all likelihood will, co-exist for many years to come.

Which has the greater number of subscribers really makes no difference as long as there is a sufficient population on each to sustain its development, surely?

I can't simple belive that. Almost 70 of my rl/ingame/forum friends left this game. Servers became empty, population online droped by 60% (from measures provided by some protals and even official TOR portal), BW remove cancel button and bring some crap called "founder title" to keep ppl payig for that unfinished product where they wil leventualy try to make this game playable.

I think Bioware do and say every lie to take their money back that they sink in this failure. End of story.

Maybe if some people around here got over a childish hatred of some other game, we could get a louder voice telling BW what needs to be done to get players back, and attract new ones?

If by that you mean LFD and addons, then no, those aren't features all people want to see in a game. As the part where the wowkiddies have gone back to SW or Org, maybe but reading WoW boards one would think that game is empty. So, no, wrong on teh second point too

fact is people like you buy a game and if the game isn't exactly like they want, they start shouting and crying on forums hoping that the devs change the game to be like they want.

luckily, most TOR subscribers aren't basement dwellers or ADHD wowkiddies, that's why the game keeps on growing despite all the attempts to make it look like it's losing subs

As stated in one of your many whine posts before:

No one cares if people like you leave the game, cya.