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So, that's end game? Sitting in the fleet lfg for one hour?

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So, that's end game? Sitting in the fleet lfg for one hour?

KindBudhArsh's Avatar

01.25.2012 , 01:37 PM | #11
Quote: Originally Posted by Pricia View Post
I have one... casual player friends who are lower level. Sigh. I don't really want to ditch them.
ur a racer. you are your enemy my friend. I have a guildie like u who lvls too fast ad complains at the end while everyone else is enjoying lvling

Raeln's Avatar

01.25.2012 , 01:49 PM | #12
Quote: Originally Posted by CriticalMasses View Post
I'm not forgetting that. But I see 50's all the time that just don't want to group. They got used to playing the game their way, grouping only once in a while when they felt like it, and they don't want to be forced. So a lot of them are going back to Alts, or just taking a break from the game entirely to see what gets done about it.

I myself have a really hard time finding TIME to do a Hard Mode flashpoint. I just don't have the 2 hours to dedicate to it right now. I can do 30-45 minutes, no problem. In fact myself and 3 other 50's helped out a level 43 with one of his heroics the other day just because HE couldn't find anyone to group up with.

Another problem is that between level 35-40, i've noticed a lot of players on the republic side have stopped leveling and are taking a break because, and I quote. "It feels like a grind now".

There are many factors to it, I know. Me personally, I'm hoping for Hard Mode Heroics at some point, that way I can pick and choose from all of the ones each planet has to offer and find one that fits with the time I have available.

In fact I would have no issues with the thought that I may never get to do hard mode FP's or Ops because of time constraints if I could group up or solo some of the smaller heroics when I wanted and not feel like I'm just steam-rolling the content.

Honestly some of the heroics were more fun than the Flashpoints anyway, in some cases. All the heroics lack is a boss that requires some weird game mechanic to kill. heh.
I can understand. I'd be there with you looking for other 50s right now but I got my Sage up to 50, paid attention to the heroic gear and was like.. "I'm supposed to wear that?!" I rerolled to a Commando who is now 41.

I'm getting to be "old" in the gaming community at a ripe old age of 35 and I've changed my way of doing things. With my Commando, I'll finish all the class story and quests before I get real concerned with Flashpoints at all. My brother and I have duo'ed a number of the normal modes while leveling but I'm not a fan of sub-50 Flashpoints anyway.

Once I get all my "solo" content done to where it's all dailies that are left, I'll start hitting the guild up to run heroics. Without a LFD tool though, I'll rarely subject myself to the PUG part of the community as a healer. I will at times as a DPS, so my activity in the PUG side of the game will depend on when Bioware implements dual spec and my own guild's activity. I am DPS right now and I'm not opposed to going heal spec but without mouseover healing and a better way to see party debuffs, I have no desire to do it full time at this point.

I hope my ramblings make some level of sense, but that is how I feel about level 50 Flashpoints and I know a few others in my guild feel the same way.

Kredoria's Avatar

01.25.2012 , 02:00 PM | #13
as long as you are a tank it is easy otherwise good luck.

Albytaps's Avatar

01.25.2012 , 02:21 PM | #14
That sucks. There have been 3 people in my guild now that have reached level 50. I don't see them on anymore. Hopefully they are just playing alts and waiting for more of us to hit 50... but I have a feeling they are just not interested in playing anymore. Why do people have to rush to 50 and then quit? Lame.

Raeln's Avatar

01.25.2012 , 02:32 PM | #15
Quote: Originally Posted by Albytaps View Post
That sucks. There have been 3 people in my guild now that have reached level 50. I don't see them on anymore. Hopefully they are just playing alts and waiting for more of us to hit 50... but I have a feeling they are just not interested in playing anymore. Why do people have to rush to 50 and then quit? Lame.
A few in my guild hit 50, then rolled an alt on one side or the other while they are waiting on others to catch up.

It may also be that their alts are in different guilds or even on different servers.

ExonOnimi's Avatar

01.25.2012 , 02:38 PM | #16
Wow how do people get to 50 so fast.
I wish I could play every day.
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Zantul's Avatar

01.25.2012 , 02:44 PM | #17
Quote: Originally Posted by CriticalMasses View Post
This is part of it.

Some of the flashpoints are incredibly long. They need to supliment by offering a "hard mode" on Heroics with a mission terminal that will allow you to pick from all the heroics available with Drops close to HM flash points, but not quite.

The other part is that you have an entire population that got to CHOOSE whether to solo or group for the entire game. A lot of players chose to Solo, and have reached 50 and continue to solo and are not interested in grouping.

But at 50, bioware forces players to group for a LOT of things, so it's a shock to the system that some players want to resist. (Grouping isn't fun for everyone, especially if you're unlucky with a few PUG groups).

So a lot of those 50's aren't logging in, or they're just going about their dailies and ignoring the group requests.

Bioware's method of Forcing players into doing stuff is a method that is about 10 years out of date for MMO's, but it's their first MMO so I guess they have to go back and make all the mistakes that every other MMO developer has made.

Bioware has TONS of existing content that they could add though in the form of Hard Mode Heroics, making the 2 man heroics actually doable with just you and a companion could alleviate a lot of these issues.

It's another choice. Also, some heroics can be finished in 10-15 minutes with the right group of players. So it's a quick in-and-out for casual players.

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01.25.2012 , 02:45 PM | #18
Quote: Originally Posted by Pricia View Post
I love the game, but what a letdown at level 50. I went from playing all the time I was online to just sitting in the Imperial Fleet hoping to find a group.

I guess I've been spoiled with 5 minutes queues in another game, but really, this is incredibly disappointing. Bah.

And yes, I've made an alt.. and she's level 50 too.
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Pricia's Avatar

01.25.2012 , 02:55 PM | #19
Quote: Originally Posted by Fox_McCloud View Post
You played too much. Your problem.
And I enjoyed every minute of it. Until I was done with all my quests.

It's just a huge letdown. I guess in a month when all the casuals are 50 they'll understand though... there's just nothing you can do for 1.5 hour at a time, except pvp...

Zeris's Avatar

01.25.2012 , 02:56 PM | #20
I just got this game a week ago, but I had friends that already had a pretty established guild, so I was put in there from level one. I'm still not fifty yet, but the majority of the guild I'm in is fifty and they frequently run hard mode flashpoints and are starting to do operations regularly.

However, they ALSO get on alts to help me level when they're not doing stuff on their fifties and will do flashpoints with me around my level, help me through heroics, etc. So, what it sounds like to me, is what others have already pointed out; you're your own worst enemy. You're fifty and the rest of your friends aren't, and you don't want to abandon them but it also sounds like you're not really putting forth the effort to help them level. If they don't level as fast as you want them to, then you'll have to put up with it, because they're entitled to play the game as they wish and level at their own pace.

I'm certain there's classes you haven't played to completion yet, so just make an alt and help your guildmates/friends get up to fifty so then you can all experience the stuff you want to do.

Also: the game's been out for a little over a month, and within that span they've already released Kaon Under Siege and expanded Karagga's Palace. I don't know what exactly you're expecting in terms of flow of content, but if you're already hounding for more content, it might be time to take a break and do something else.