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Valenthor
01.24.2012 , 12:31 AM | #71
Analogies are the argument tool of the ignorant and uncreative.

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MaximusRex
01.24.2012 , 12:31 AM | #72
Quote: Originally Posted by PjPablo View Post
You can't possibly think that bugs/flaws like ability delay, the lack of high res textures, fps performance issues, lack of UI customization, poor GTN design, etc are 'user error'? I like this game, but I do realize it is far from perfect. I have faith BW will get it right but I don't let my enjoyment of the game cloud the fact that there are some real issues here.
Most of those are designs that aren't liked, not bugs. No matter what they do to the GTN, there will always be people that aren't happy with how they do it. I'm not saying it can't be better, just that features that need to be iterated on still really shouldn't be lumped together with bugs.

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Tirfin
01.24.2012 , 12:33 AM | #73
Well, this is how I see the analogy:

For me the only issues I have had with the game have been: green light shows, some minimal quest malfunction (companion broke on two total), and I have finally seen the ability delay today...

I bought a new 2011 Subaru Impreza Outback Sport (one step below the hatch back WRX) just over a year ago. The right blinker shorted out after about a month, and when I changed it, did it again after two weeks. The blue tooth phone is finicky at best, and completely hears the wrong thing at worse, the ipod function can only read the first 100 or so categories out of they 80gb of music I have, and I had to pay extra for cup holders in the back seat...Oh, and the flat tire light got stuck twice (once after a flat, once randomly while taking the GF's mom the the airport, that sucked).

I LOOOOOOOOOVE my car!!! Great handling, nice engine (got it before the 30 hp engine nerf this year), manual transmission, and downright fun to drive. None of the issues really took from my experience. I feel much the same way about SWTOR, and I only payed 50 bucks for it, no insurance, and the gas (ie subscription) is cheaper too!

edit: Oh, and the dealership fixed everything in time too...

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anhtice
01.24.2012 , 12:35 AM | #74
its like this game has no Quality control or TQM.

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Syylara
01.24.2012 , 12:37 AM | #75
Quote: Originally Posted by Valenthor View Post
Analogies are the argument tool of the ignorant and uncreative.
Actually, analogies take a degree of imagination to come up with.

I'm not sure how ignorance fits at all, as that is the lack of desire to expand knowledge.

Using an ad hominem, however reveals you have nothing to say against the idea being discussed itself and must instead resort to attacking the person making the arguments.

Usually this is caused by a lack of desire to hear other points of view.
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BushidoRaven
01.24.2012 , 12:39 AM | #76
WE: We all agree literally that the game has glitches, bugs, and level 7's on illum autoclicking.

Them: We're finally stepping up to the plate and admitting it will take 6 months to Iron out and rewrite the code to make heroengine run on more then 1 thread.

Me: Good luck ! 6
Read it and weep. http://i.imgur.com/UmcMV.jpg

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ominousz
01.24.2012 , 12:47 AM | #77
Plain and simple, MMO's are the furthest thing from new cars as you can get. The MMO industry standard do NOT have the same standards and regulations as the car industry. Pretty poor analogy, and shows the ignorance of the OP.

That being said, the industry standard for MMOs, is that not everything has to be 150% for release to be successful. You kids keep comparing every MMO in the last 7 years to WoW, but yet you forget to mention the busted *** car WoW was at launch. Instead, WoW has taken the last 7 years to fine tune their machine, bringing you the beast we all know today. Unfortunately, like everything after 7 years, and I do mean everything... folks get burnt out.

Time for change is necessary. SWTOR is that change for me, and I could give a rats *** if you stay or go. Bioware will follow through, we've all played and loved their games of past and I have faith they will deliver the fine tuning this game needs.

TL;DR if you're ******* on the forums for any reason, you're either a fanboy of WoW, or too impatient to give BW a chance to dev this game into the monster it can be.

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JeanRoge
01.24.2012 , 12:52 AM | #78
I’m concerned people honesty believe the OP has compared a computer game to a physical car. Especially….

Quote: Originally Posted by Azzras View Post
Did OP say that if I buy a new car and I can't rearrange the dash I should be able to get a different car?
And I’ll field that question. No. She/he made an analogy. My jaw literally fell off. LITERALLY!!

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Braaaiins
01.24.2012 , 12:53 AM | #79
Quote: Originally Posted by Oldbuster View Post
Given that the MMO's genre is not new and Bioware has entered into the world of MMO's with SWTOR as its flagship IP.

I hear a lot of talk from people making representations on how it's hard to make a MMO and there are always glitches and problems, and the devs will sort it out eventually.

The computer industry must be the only industry where the customer base accepts faults with products

I raise this:

If Bioware was a new car company entering in to the car sales world and SWTOR was its shiny new prestige vehicle, would you buy it, after having test driven it?

Me: Excuse me the radio doesn't work.
Salesperson: Oh we have a workaround for that. Please plug in your iphone into the shiny usb port and you will hear your favorite tunes.

Me: The engine keeps misfiring and making strange noises.
Salesperson: Please provide our engineering department with a complete engine diagnostic so they may look at it in detail and get back to you some time in the future.

Me: I hit the Gas Peddle and nothing happens for a good second, same thing with the brakes.

Saleperson: We are aware of this issue and our engineers are working hard to have a fix for that in the future. May I suggest you plan your acceleration and braking in advance. this would help you a lot.

Me: The rear vision mirror and instrumentation are blocking my field of view and I cant move it. Other car companies let me move those things.

Salesperson: We spent years designing the dashboard and the instrumentation. you will get used to it. Trust me.
I hear a lot of moaning.. you can't beat this games reviews.. sorry dood. This game will never be a new car and the fact that you're comparing to to such is down right sad.. "apples 'nd oranges"



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bython
01.24.2012 , 01:19 AM | #80
It's funny, because I think the actual opposit of the OPs logic is the case.

I work in a big company and when our new software was released I thought to myself: "If this was the launch of an MMO and said MMO had THAT many bugs in it, not one person would buy this one."

Having compared it with several programs (including Microsoft Office, for god's sake!), I have to say that there is nothing more polished than entertainment software.
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