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Kira Carsen - Companion story bug?

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Kira Carsen - Companion story bug?
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JayDubyaDub
12.27.2011 , 01:18 PM | #501
I really don't want to advance the story content because I'm concerned about what impact this quest line would have on dialogue...

Really don't want to roll up a different main character so early in the game.

Really don't want to start this character over.

Really disappointed and really want to not renew subscription until this is fixed.



Picked that option only because I mistakenly figured you had to in order to unlock the romance stuff, and logically speaking, based on her extremely positive reaction to that choice, that wouldn't and shouldn't hinder and completely break the chain. So we can only conclude that it is a bug, and that it somehow sets a state on our character questlines that the game does not know how to read and breaks certain triggers.



Need a dev response, yeah.

I respect that some people don't like / don't use certain NPCs, and I respect that some people don't like Bioware romance stuff, but it's been around since Baldur's Gate 2 and I tend to enjoy them greatly as a feature. The novelty of that mechanic in an MMO was very appealing.

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abelweltall
12.27.2011 , 01:20 PM | #502
So im about to hit the bug part of kiras quest line... My doubt is... Should i play safe and dont choose the DS flirt option on the defector quest? Or with this patch i can be sure that chosing the DS flirt will not bug me as it was happening for everyone before the patch?

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MasterQendar
12.27.2011 , 01:21 PM | #503
Quote: Originally Posted by ZeasJ View Post
Just sent a pretty annoyed email to the SWToR crew and hopefully I'll get a response soon.

I am deeply dissapointed in how they're handling the matter. Surely, I can understand that it will take time to fix this issue but at least they could in some way inform us that it will take time but they're working on it instead of letting a thread hit almost 50 pages of people experiencing the same bloody problem.
Guys before you rant and complain, maybe you should actually read these 50 pages you would know that a dev did post about this and set everyone expectations.

Was clearly said that this next fix would be for new players only and that people with the bug already would have to wait alittle longer. Its not there fault that you don't like to read and keep yourself up to date with whats effecting you.

Anyways thanks for fixing the first half bioware ill be awaiting the second half fix so I can finally talk to her.
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sonny
12.27.2011 , 01:22 PM | #504
@abelweltall

According to the Patch Notes and a response from a fellow jedi in this forum, this is in fact fixed so you should be able to flirt with her.

Of course, you can always play it safe and don't just to be sure.
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Grandsavior
12.27.2011 , 01:23 PM | #505
Quote: Originally Posted by abelweltall View Post
So im about to hit the bug part of kiras quest line... My doubt is... Should i play safe and dont choose the DS flirt option on the defector quest? Or with this patch i can be sure that chosing the DS flirt will not bug me as it was happening for everyone before the patch?
no, your fine, it's fixed for anyone who did not start it yet, but for us who's already started it, it's still bugged because it was not revered, just fixed for anyone who didn't start it.

So feel free to pick whatever

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Kielor
12.27.2011 , 01:23 PM | #506
I really appreciate how there is absolutely no freaking warning about what will happen if you choose the flirt option after the mining facility. I mean, I've only put in 50 hours on my level 36 sentinel, it's not like I don't mind starting over and choosing ONE option that won't affect it.

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Deadsanto
12.27.2011 , 01:25 PM | #507
Quote: Originally Posted by MattPucevich View Post
Hello all!

I can confirm that there is indeed an issue here.

The TL;DR version is this:
Until we can get the fix up, don't flirt with Kira during The Defector quest! (she will stop giving affection conversations)

The underlying issue has already been fixed internally, and should be showing up on our known issues list in a moment. It will take us a few days to roll out the fix so new players won't encounter the issue. It'll take us a bit longer to get a fix out for characters already experiencing the issue, but don't panic -- you should be able to hit the ground running with Kira as if nothing had ever been wrong (affection accumulated between now and then should not be harmed). Free to continue using Kira if you don't mind cashing in on your investment at a later date, or perhaps you might get to better know your cheeky T-7 droid!

Lastly, props to Cadan for his assistance in helping us track down this bug and give it the Yoda Stick!
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SuperSair
12.27.2011 , 02:02 PM | #508
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Well heres this, but like it matters anymore
Well, it's nice to know that "a few days" means 10. Now by that standard a little longer should be around...

God if i re-rolled i'd be 50 by now.

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JayDubyaDub
12.27.2011 , 02:05 PM | #509
Quote: Originally Posted by MasterQendar View Post
Guys before you rant and complain, maybe you should actually read these 50 pages you would know that a dev did post about this and set everyone expectations.

Was clearly said that this next fix would be for new players only and that people with the bug already would have to wait alittle longer. Its not there fault that you don't like to read and keep yourself up to date with whats effecting you.

Anyways thanks for fixing the first half bioware ill be awaiting the second half fix so I can finally talk to her.
That was the 16th; I thought he was saying literally that a hotfix would be in the next few days and the next patch would attend to this issue. Then on reading the patch notes, it appeared that the next patch had fixed the issue.

Instead, it seems this next patch contained only the fix for new Knights.

So maybe I did read it wrong. Just the same, the post above stands: "I really don't want to advance the story content because I'm concerned about what impact this quest line would have on dialogue..."

It's a reasonable concern given that so far, main story quests have involved her heavily.


It's like this... Think back to TOR, and the romance with Bastila. Some people never did it, some people liked it, whatever, but that was a relatively brief, cinematic RPG with lots of replayability and you always had the same optional NPC companions, and you probably had save files out the wazoo. But the reason why it's a good example is that in the endgame, it had some serious implications in terms of how the plot worked out.

Now imagine you really liked the romance story with Bastila. Now imagine it being bugged, where you didn't really do anything wrong but now the NPC acts like that story event never happened, as if you had rejected that content, been dismissive to the NPC, were the wrong gender, or otherwise. Now imagine there was no such thing as save files, and have the game be four to five times as long. Now add as an added bonus you have to be the same class and same gender on a relatively identical playthrough to experience the content...

Yeeeeeeeah. That doesn't seem appealing. Now imagine this isn't just a game where you bought it and you own it and you can play it whenever...


Now if we knew that the specific companion bonuses due to affection / romance stuff is independent of the main story going forward...

Well then, if we knew that was the case, then why worry about it? But since we don't, I am worried about it. Because I don't know that. And I know that it had a huge impact on dialogue and events in KotOR and KotOR 2.

(Or heck, in Baldur's Gate 2, or Mass Effect trilogy or Dragon Age...)




I don't care about a lack of xp for companion quests. I'll probably have lots of quests when I'm 50 and don't get any xp anyway. What I care about is whether or not this bug is going to affect later dialogue and story with other characters and other situations.

In other words, missed content. Because I'm probably not going to make a male Jedi Knight again; would get dull having all your alts do the same thing. I just don't want any missed content.

Hence my request for additional clarification. Hence my current frustration and not wanting to advance the main story.

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ScarTissue
12.27.2011 , 02:22 PM | #510
Level 41 Jedi Knight here. Affection metre for Kira Reads 8978/10000.

I took the dark side flirt option earlier in the story and have had the same issue of no interaction with Kira since then. The issue hasn't been cleared up for me with the latest patch.

Can't interact with Kira on any planets nor on my personal spaceship either so if there has been a supposed 'fix' then it hasn't worked for me.