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Story diversity is a lie


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Perinn
01.23.2012 , 07:30 PM | #141
so im skipping a few pages but all that im getting out of this thread is confusing.

You say the story's are very similar but then you tell us its kill this and that. That isnt the story, thats the time sink. The story are the cutscenes and dialog. So I'm confused about what your talking about. We are all playing the same genre of game. So yea the mechanics of kill this, gather that, go over there and click this are of course going to be the same since we are all playing the same game. Its the Dialog and cutscenes that are the story.

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Zunayson
01.23.2012 , 07:42 PM | #142
All quests. I mean all objectives. ALL EVERYTHING Is centered around going somewhere and doing something. That's it. The reason it feels repetitive is because you do it so *********** much. In Mass Effect, it was go find 12 people and then kill this guy. Not: Go do this, than this, than this, okay, now you do this. In Mass Effect, they gave you one objective, the rest was just in the way. But that other mission you just did that was kill 3 jawas had just as much drama (Or lack thereof) as this class quest, so it feels EXACTLY the same. The best quest experience I've had in the game was Tython: It was short, and each mission was centered around one thing. Not Go kill jawas! They have my droid! Go kill Wampas! They kill my son! It's all centered around one base objective: The Flesh Raiders and their threat to the settlement areas. The only reason I continued to play my sniper was because I was about to at the end of Nar Shaddaa:

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Instead of Point A to Point B, It added more tension to be infiltrating an enemy area. That was more interesting. To me, it seems end-planet was the only thin interesting

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Uruare
01.23.2012 , 07:45 PM | #143
I've been happy with most of the class questlines I've seen so far, with sith inquisitor past chapter 1 being the glaring moldy dishrag exception.

If you're leveling alts on the same faction side though...yep. Planet storylines aren't unique to specific classes. That right there can give one a case of the doldrums leveling something on the same faction side back to back to back and so on.

A lot of stuff is pretty barebones right now too, I will plainly acknowledge. I'm confident, and I hope my confidence is not misplaced, in that that will change over time. More planets with questlines, alternative leveling paths on both factions; I think it'll diversify nicely.

Right now, if you're on imperial side...you start on Hutta or Korriban, go to Dromund Kaas, go to Balmorra, go to Nar Shaddaa, go to Tatooine, go to Alderaan, go to Taris, go to Quesh, go to Hoth, go to Belsavis, go to Voss and go to Corellia, in that order, every single time.


If you're getting XP a lot from PVPing and flashpoints in lower levels, you can sometimes skip Quesh altogether if you like, and I've seen a few people that managed to skip other planets altogether except to run their classquests from PVPing/doing space missions/doing FP's a lot, but otherwise...well.

Right now, the leveling path is pretty singular through PVE.

I suspect, in the future, there'll be more planets and maybe, ultimately, quite a lot of planets for more of a pick your own adventure path of leveling.

Or so I'd like to hope anyway.

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ippollite
01.23.2012 , 08:48 PM | #144
I can perceive how this could be true.

I assume, though im only leveling the one class (i actually play a couple of hours a day on average and am level 36, though i did miss a week or so from snowboarding), a jedi sage, that the mirror probably follows a similar story:

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Ive honestly not played the inquisitor but i have a feeling this is the underlying mechanic to the story line. If it is, then the OP is spot on. If it isnt, then the OP has a touch of confirmation bias. In fact, lets all have a crack at telling the story if we havent played our mirror...

So heres what i think the inquisitor story line might be:

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Am i on target. I have a feeling i am

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Taurusaud
01.23.2012 , 08:49 PM | #145
It's not surprising, so many of this game's features are half-assed and lazily construed.

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Umbravita
01.23.2012 , 09:20 PM | #146
Quote: Originally Posted by Taurusaud View Post
It's not surprising, so many of this game's features are half-assed and lazily construed.
taurus u re-subbed despite your open hatred for the game, congrats!


still trying to figure out what people were expecting that wasn't delivered in this game?

how many games are NOT quest to gather/kill stuff to level/gear up to gather/kill higher level stuff?

what magical nuances or inventions are in your head that are not being provided? i have never seen any specific suggestions to quell the communities anger over lack of innovation.

try and provide solutions instead of simply criticizing the "problems", make yourself useful in some way.
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Umbravita
01.23.2012 , 09:23 PM | #147
more on the specific topic, the sith warrior class quest story arc for getting Jaesa as a companion was flippin amazing.

if all the classes have a similar quest line, i am pretty stoked.
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Shakari
01.23.2012 , 10:27 PM | #148
Quote: Originally Posted by Scopian View Post
Zero questing variation between levels and factions is Bioware's fault. There's a reason why people have 5 level 85's in WOW and this game will shut down with most people have 1 (or less) level 50.
There is variation I'm leveling 3 chars atm but its not an amazing amount but its 200% more variation compared to wow .... there is ZERO variation in wow's questing between classes...

i have 5 85's 2 83's and 3 80-81 chars .... so I know that for a fact lol

and the questing in SWTOR is 100 times more engaging and entertaining than wow imo.

Hell even when new expansions are out I have zero inclination to read wow quests texts while I have found all the quests good in SWTOR the 1st time and still listen to the same ones on alts because there'a always rep and alignment variations

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Nordya
01.23.2012 , 10:32 PM | #149
Even is all the side quests are the same, the class quests are different, I don't have the same story playing my sith warrior my imperial agent, both are different.

I did 3 BT run today to get gear for my sith, and was fun to do two different first boss depending on what happens.

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SnoggyMack
01.23.2012 , 10:33 PM | #150
Quote: Originally Posted by Taurusaud View Post
It's not surprising, so many of this game's features are half-assed and lazily construed.
How does one construe something lazily?
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