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The Clone Wars (Old series and New Series) as cannon.

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The Clone Wars (Old series and New Series) as cannon.

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Gantoris_Aym
01.22.2012 , 08:06 PM | #1
Should they be considered cannon? why or why not?

-sorry if this is a repost.

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Wolfninjajedi
01.22.2012 , 08:13 PM | #2
Old? No, New? Yes

The old was pretty much nothing more then huge fight scenes, there wasn't really any backstory to it there were just bits and pieces of it.

The new has more story, and you get a feel for the characters as they are shown more and more throughout the show. Theres a perfect mix of both story and battles thrown in.
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Gantoris_Aym
01.22.2012 , 08:16 PM | #3
Quote: Originally Posted by Wolfninjajedi View Post
Old? No, New? Yes

The old was pretty much nothing more then huge fight scenes, there wasn't really any backstory to it there were just bits and pieces of it.

The new has more story, and you get a feel for the characters as they are shown more and more throughout the show. Theres a perfect mix of both story and battles thrown in.
Would you still say that if the live action TV show takes the same time period? I like to think that no one intends for anything outside of the Main Video games and Movies to be concrete Canon

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LukeDanger
01.22.2012 , 08:17 PM | #4
They're both canon, but there'll be places where there'll be conflict and one will win out, but it'll likely be give/take both ways. Most notably, when Anakin got the switch from his Ep II hand to his Ep III version. Otherwise, most of the 2D can be meshed fairly easily with the 3D series.

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Wolfninjajedi
01.22.2012 , 08:18 PM | #5
Quote: Originally Posted by Gantoris_Aym View Post
Would you still say that if the live action TV show takes the same time period? I like to think that no one intends for anything outside of the Main Video games and Movies to be concrete Canon
The live action tv showing is going to take place between EP 3 and 4 its not the same time period as TCW.
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Gantoris_Aym
01.22.2012 , 08:29 PM | #6
Quote: Originally Posted by Wolfninjajedi View Post
The live action tv showing is going to take place between EP 3 and 4 its not the same time period as TCW.
That's what they're saying, but I don't think anything is certain yet...they haven't even started filming.

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bfishback
01.22.2012 , 08:39 PM | #7
Quote: Originally Posted by Gantoris_Aym View Post
Would you still say that if the live action TV show takes the same time period? I like to think that no one intends for anything outside of the Main Video games and Movies to be concrete Canon
The TV show is actually more canon than the games.

Game canon is on level with the books.

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SeanC
01.22.2012 , 08:44 PM | #8
This is what I gather from wikipedia dealing with star wars canon so you can take it for what its worth.

By 1996, Licensing was keeping an in-house bible of reference materials as the volume of publications, facts, and figures grew to such unwieldy proportions that it became difficult to know everything relevant to a particular project. They finally decided something had to be done to organize the increasingly large collection of media which chronicled the Star Wars universe. A system of canon was developed that organized the materials into what was and wasn't fit for the Star Wars story.

In 2000, Lucas Licensing appointed Leland Chee to create a continuity tracking database referred to as the "Holocron". As with every other aspect having to do with the overall story of Star Wars, the Holocron follows the canon policy that has been in effect for years.

The Holocron is divided into 5 levels (in order of precedence): G-canon, T-canon, C-canon, S-canon, and N-canon.
G-canon is absolute canon; the movies (their most recent release), the scripts, the novelizations of the movies, the radio plays, and any statements by George Lucas himself. G-canon overrides the lower levels of canon when there is a contradiction. Within G-canon, many fans follow an unofficial progression of canonicity where the movies are the highest canon, followed by the scripts, the novelizations, and then the radio plays.

T-canon[2] refers to the canon level comprising only the two television shows: Star Wars: The Clone Wars and the Star Wars live-action TV series. Its precedence over C-Level canon was confirmed by Chee.

[3] C-canon is primarily composed of elements from the Expanded Universe including books, comics, and games bearing the label of Star Wars. Games and RPG sourcebooks are a special case; the stories and general background information are themselves fully C-canon, but the other elements such as character/item statistics and gameplay are, with few exceptions, N-canon.

S-canon is secondary canon; the story itself is considered non-continuity, but the non-contradicting elements are still a canon part of the Star Wars universe. This includes things like the online roleplaying game Star Wars: Galaxies and certain elements of a few N-canon stories.

N-canon is non-canon. "What-if" stories (such as stories published under the Star Wars: Infinities label), crossover appearances (such as the Star Wars character appearances in Soulcalibur IV), game statistics, and anything else directly contradicted by higher canon ends up here. N-canon is the only level that is not considered official canon by Lucasfilm. A significant amount of material that was previously C-canon was rendered N-canon by the release of Episodes I-III.

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SeanC
01.22.2012 , 09:14 PM | #10
Quote: Originally Posted by Restepor View Post
I consider both Cannon. Can't really beat the post above, so.
The other information that I consider to be somehwat important that basically GL story that he created is the true canon and he doesn't really consider anything else to be apart of his story. He mentions that his story his canon and everything else is a parallel universe that follows the rules mention above.