Let's compare early WoW with early TOR

Lets hope. I want gw2 to be good but im very happy about the fact they have no forums, i dont wana read this wow fanboy garbage about gw2 when its out.

You wont have to log out of the game and go to any forums to enjoy reading it in general chat.

And thats the "curse" part of it. The perception that WoW was the first to do everything it did, when in fact most everything that came with WoW came with one game or another previously, it just didn't all come in one single package. A cartoony, easy to learn, and easy to master package.

The sub-teenagers that have proven how easy WoW is to master are also the ones that perpetuate the myth that it's the first of it's kind.

by the same token swtor hasn't had 6 years of refinement.....

even WoW story telling has rip offs like come on lich king ending = ROTJ ending

Wrath gate video is the Black gate....

just to name a few

and clearly arthas is darth vader both was good heroes and both turn to the bad side by manipulation and lust for power.

Wait what? Not only did they have 6 years of refinement by being able to copy all the good things from WoW, they also had the massive and easy opportunity to improve everything people didn't like about WoW and avoid the same mistakes games like Warhammer, AoC, Aion and Star Trek had.

And still SWTOR has more bugs than vanilla WoW had and has 2004 graphics as well.
Already the amount of subscriptions have dropped by about 50% to 500k and in another month this game will probably host around 350k people, similar to EVE Online.

As Kotor 3 this game is very good, as an MMO it's the worst attempt of a paid MMO ever.

You wont have to log out of the game and go to any forums to enjoy reading it in general chat.

This piece of dung TOR cannot even hold a candle to vanilla WoW.

that was 7 (SEVEN) years ago, using new technology, and the product was way more complete than SWTOR is now. SWTOR graphics suck, gameplay is cheesy, and obviously nothing needs to be said about PVP when the basics of the game are so lame.

Environments suck. And that is with them being way limited too, it's not nearly as open world as other MMO's that have larger, higher quality environments (and with higher populations per zone), and using a more demanding graphical engine...........I just dont understand how they can fail this badly when there are such shining examples out there

Wait what? Not only did they have 6 years of refinement by being able to copy all the good things from WoW, they also had the massive and easy opportunity to improve everything people didn't like about WoW and avoid the same mistakes games like Warhammer, AoC, Aion and Star Trek had.

And still SWTOR has more bugs than vanilla WoW had and has 2004 graphics as well.
Already the amount of subscriptions have dropped by about 50% to 500k and in another month this game will probably host around 350k people, similar to EVE Online.

As Kotor 3 this game is very good, as an MMO it's the worst attempt of a paid MMO ever.