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Let's compare early WoW with early TOR

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PjPablo
01.23.2012 , 12:29 PM | #221
Quote: Originally Posted by Barathos View Post
Doom... wasn't in... 2004?

Which doom are we talking about here?
The original 1993. Article was of all-time and was written in 2009.

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genmyke
01.23.2012 , 12:30 PM | #222
Quote: Originally Posted by Dantragk View Post
I love the people calling WoW's leveling linear when TOR is 100x more linear. Have you guys made an alt? SAME QUESTS except for the Story line. And even then you go to the SAME EXACT AREA FOR EVERYONE. This game has almost 0% replayabilitiy outside of class quests. Because I'll tell you listening to the same people with the same issues sucks. And for WoW not having a story line. It did, 99% of people were just to *********** lazy to read. Quest logs involved probably 4x as much text as there is in TOR.


so let me get this straight my leveling experience in WoW was much different than my main character i leveled?

last i checked i had the same quest later on class quest got completely removed from the game and tbc wotlk and cata was very linear.

WoW did have a storyline but none of mattered until the raids hell vanilla kinda didnt even make sense naxx in EPL...... when everybody knew it was in northrend.
dont bring up KT was suppose to come back stronger guess what blizzard copied and paste naxx into wotlk and he said the samething.

at the end of the day WoW is just as linear as swtor but atleast swtor has a class quest line to follow through.

honestly since leveling is fast in this game that gives this game alot more replay than WoW by far.

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Coramac
01.23.2012 , 12:31 PM | #223
Quote: Originally Posted by genmyke View Post
so let me get this straight my leveling experience in WoW was much different than my main character i leveled?

last i checked i had the same quest later on class quest got completely removed from the game and tbc wotlk and cata was very linear.

WoW did have a storyline but none of mattered until the raids hell vanilla kinda didnt even make sense naxx in EPL...... when everybody knew it was in northrend.
dont bring up KT was suppose to come back stronger guess what blizzard copied and paste naxx into wotlk and he said the samething.

at the end of the day WoW is just as linear as swtor but atleast swtor has a class quest line to follow through.

honestly since leveling is fast in this game that gives this game alot more replay than WoW by far.
Apparently, you missed the fact that WoW had multiple areas of content for the same level while leveling.

In fact, it's so linear that despite giving you the "option" of going to Nar Shardar first and Taris second, it actually bugs out if you are a Trooper.

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Barathos
01.23.2012 , 12:31 PM | #224
Quote: Originally Posted by PjPablo View Post
The original 1993. Article was of all-time and was written in 2009.
OoooooOOooooh.

Gotcha.

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Daedricshots
01.23.2012 , 12:32 PM | #225
Quote: Originally Posted by Doomsaga View Post
pretty much stopped reading after "First, WoW was not really very innovative". when wow first released it was one of the most innovative mmos in its time.
you stopped reading because the truth hurts. A prime example of wow stealing ideas shows itself in the fact they implemented power auras into their game and basically stole the addon for themselves. They do it all the time. Instead of posting "stopped reading" you should take a dose of the truth and deal with it.

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Doomsaga
01.23.2012 , 12:33 PM | #226
Quote: Originally Posted by SamuraBob_Fl View Post
Let's add a sense of perspective to all this:

http://us.battle.net/wow/en/forum/1012660/
better yet

http://forums.riftgame.com/official-...es/index3.html

pay particular attention to how often they patched in the first month of launnch and compare it to swtor and i think you will see why everyone is complaining.
Why isnt this game called Star Wars: The Old Empire?

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PjPablo
01.23.2012 , 12:35 PM | #227
Quote: Originally Posted by genmyke View Post
honestly since leveling is fast in this game that gives this game alot more replay than WoW by far.
I see a lot of people talk about 'replay value'. To me that is a single-player game characteristic. In MMOs you have a 'PLAY value'. If one is basing an MMO on replaying multiple character types, then I just don't see that as a long-term winner. MMOs and the typical players who play them, dedicate their time to the development of A character (or the occasional alt or two). There is a dedication or link to their 'main' that keeps them coming back. To progress. To grow that character/avatar.

If this is to become "The Alt Republic" I just don't see that as a very successful model in a sub-based MMO.

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Lethality
01.23.2012 , 12:35 PM | #228
Quote: Originally Posted by Daedricshots View Post
you stopped reading because the truth hurts. A prime example of wow stealing ideas shows itself in the fact they implemented power auras into their game and basically stole the addon for themselves. They do it all the time. Instead of posting "stopped reading" you should take a dose of the truth and deal with it.
There wasn't necessarily a ton of innovation at launch (which they've done since.) But what they DID do was immediately and absolutely eclipse the market leader at the time it was released (EQ).
Interested in a Mac version of TOR? Show your support here: http://www.swtor.com/community/showthread.php?t=683591

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Doomsaga
01.23.2012 , 12:36 PM | #229
Quote: Originally Posted by genmyke View Post
so let me get this straight my leveling experience in WoW was much different than my main character i leveled?

last i checked i had the same quest later on class quest got completely removed from the game and tbc wotlk and cata was very linear.

WoW did have a storyline but none of mattered until the raids hell vanilla kinda didnt even make sense naxx in EPL...... when everybody knew it was in northrend.
dont bring up KT was suppose to come back stronger guess what blizzard copied and paste naxx into wotlk and he said the samething.

at the end of the day WoW is just as linear as swtor but atleast swtor has a class quest line to follow through.

honestly since leveling is fast in this game that gives this game alot more replay than WoW by far.
wow been out how long? due to the large lvl cap in wow you have little to no choice but to make lvling linear up to a point. at least on wow once u get to cata u can choose were you want to lvl
Why isnt this game called Star Wars: The Old Empire?

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Barathos
01.23.2012 , 12:37 PM | #230
Quote: Originally Posted by Lethality View Post
There wasn't necessarily a ton of innovation at launch (which they've done since.) But what they DID do was immediately and absolutely eclipse the market leader at the time it was released (EQ).
^ this