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Let's compare early WoW with early TOR

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Let's compare early WoW with early TOR

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Offended
01.23.2012 , 09:42 AM | #131
Quote: Originally Posted by Vaegaknight View Post
None of you have really provided constructive criticism. That would actually help make the game better. You know, going into the threads the mods have designated for suggestions? How about the suggestions forum?
Don't read the forums much do you?

Hundreds of posts about each of a feature that should be (and is in most) MMO's was left out of Swtor because of the lack of intelligence on biowares part.

Then, you have the thousands of posts about the Combat Ability issue which as i gather from beta testers, was reported nearly a YEAR ago.

Hell, bioware even created a suggestions forum because there was so many posts.

Concise, well written posts outlining the need for xyz feature and how it helps the game and not hurts it.

However, what happens in most, if not all of those posts?

You have these idiotic swtor fanboys come in and say "NO CAUSE IT WILL BE LIKE WOWS AND THIS ISNT WOWS THIS IS BETTER THAN MMO IN THE WORLDS!!!" trying to make the case that warcraft should be for bad players, yet they're against the things that make players good at the game?


There was another post that i saw, where the author of the post said something along the people that don't like wow that move to another MMO and complain about the MMO when it moves to become more feature rich like wow, then pack up and leave are the ones that kill the MMO.

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Vaegaknight
01.23.2012 , 09:51 AM | #132
Oh god, car analogies, huh? Have we really started those again?

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Vaegaknight
01.23.2012 , 09:53 AM | #133
Quote: Originally Posted by Offended View Post
Don't read the forums much do you?

Hundreds of posts about each of a feature that should be (and is in most) MMO's was left out of Swtor because of the lack of intelligence on biowares part.

Then, you have the thousands of posts about the Combat Ability issue which as i gather from beta testers, was reported nearly a YEAR ago.

Hell, bioware even created a suggestions forum because there was so many posts.

Concise, well written posts outlining the need for xyz feature and how it helps the game and not hurts it.

However, what happens in most, if not all of those posts?

You have these idiotic swtor fanboys come in and say "NO CAUSE IT WILL BE LIKE WOWS AND THIS ISNT WOWS THIS IS BETTER THAN MMO IN THE WORLDS!!!" trying to make the case that warcraft should be for bad players, yet they're against the things that make players good at the game?


There was another post that i saw, where the author of the post said something along the people that don't like wow that move to another MMO and complain about the MMO when it moves to become more feature rich like wow, then pack up and leave are the ones that kill the MMO.
The great, VAST majority of posts are not concisely written constructive criticisms. They are blatant, "Wah I didn't get this so I'm unsubbing and you're all stupid for playing this unfinished game derp a der." So please. Don't give me that crap.

I commend the well written suggestions. I've given a couple of them myself. But the incessant WHINING is what kills the entire forum experience for me.

You do know the difference between whining and constructive criticism, don't you? Because that's the crap I'm attacking. I am all for improving this game. I am not for people without a clue, who think their opinions is everyone's opinion, who think they know best, who think the world needs to KNOW that they're quitting.

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Mobiwang
01.23.2012 , 09:54 AM | #134
Quote: Originally Posted by PHPer View Post
Why oh why, should i want to compare a 2004 game with a 2011 game ?

I dont compare the pc i used back then, with my iPhone ! Why, because my phone wins.

Swtor is a good ok first attempt, that imo should still be in beta, but i guess someone needed the money now. That being said, Biowares constant fail in focus is the most scary part tbh, having a account system that literaly stealts peoples money, and then ignore it all together. That shows where biowares focus is.

Blizzard are greedy, but atleast you get what you order.
Proper grammar and punctuation would do wonders for the credibility of such posts. Just sayin'.

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Avrose
01.23.2012 , 09:57 AM | #135
Quote: Originally Posted by wutru View Post
Here's the difference:
Blizzard prioritized functional mechanics first, before content updates and expansion.
I'm sure that 20 days of downtime within the first 30 days had nothing to do with functionality.

Quote: Originally Posted by Vaegaknight View Post
Oh god, car analogies, huh? Have we really started those again?
I know rite? Cause everything is comparable to a car that is something you can buy.

No one possibly buys things and expects it to get better as you go like seeds, racing colts, houses for flipping and I'm sure there are others.

Nope everything is like a car.
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Garbald
01.23.2012 , 10:03 AM | #136
Quote: Originally Posted by chalkwhite View Post
Early WoW isn't on the market.

Compare TOR to established WoW.
If you go with that then every single mmo that will ever be released in the future will be an utter disappointment to you.
Development is expensive, creating content takes time...

No company can afford creating a game with the content (and polish) of ~3-5 years initial and then 7 years of continual development... that is 10 to 12 years of development time lol...

I would suggest to give up mmos completely in your case

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Aghar
01.23.2012 , 10:06 AM | #137
I seem to remember vanilla wow being totally unplayable for about a week after release. Falling through floors, being unable to cross zone lines, and quests bugging out more than they do in swtor. But that is just my vanilla experience.
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Draksen
01.23.2012 , 10:11 AM | #138
Quote: Originally Posted by PHPer View Post
Blizzard are greedy, but atleast you get what you order.
Haha, hahaha.
That was funny, mate
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Kinrain
01.23.2012 , 10:13 AM | #139
SWTOR has WoW beat for me due to its philosophy.

WoW is a grind. Do meaningless quests no one ever reads the details of to get better gear, so you can do instances to get better gear, that lets you do raids that give better gear, so you can do more raids to get better gear. Repeat forever or until you wise up and realise your on a treadmill where the only change is the design of the loot pinata your whacking away at.

SWTOR is not a grind, you play from 1 to 50 experiencing well written and compelling stories that are enjoyable. After 50, well I think i've got plenty of levelling to do with all those stories to experience and BW will have plenty for me to do when i'm ready for it.

Because I got off the treadmill and am enjoying a real game.
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sol_
01.23.2012 , 10:15 AM | #140
Lets not, its the better part of a decade later and technology is advancing constantly.