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Those complaining about loot in FP's I did some research on my own

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Those complaining about loot in FP's I did some research on my own

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Chnmmr
01.23.2012 , 01:44 AM | #11
Did a run of the new flashpoint with 2 Jedi guardians, myself as a Consular, and a trooper. Guess what every boss loot reward was?

Go on, guess.

Smuggler. >_<
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jonnybigboy
01.23.2012 , 01:51 AM | #12
Those few examples prove that random loot isn't random. I have a penny that always lands on heads. I flipped it 3 times and - always heads. Want to buy my magic penny?

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darreke
01.23.2012 , 01:58 AM | #13
Allways trooper armor, every HM FP i do, TROOPER ARMOR for random drops, WHY ?

At with the set pieces i have a chance to win something usefull >_<
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Faflito
01.23.2012 , 02:34 AM | #14
Quote: Originally Posted by jonnybigboy View Post
Those few examples prove that random loot isn't random. I have a penny that always lands on heads. I flipped it 3 times and - always heads. Want to buy my magic penny?
Exactly, to prove something through just experience it has to be tested AT LEAST 10 times.

Now even this is actually loltalk for any1 who is 1/2 serious about chance math but I m trying to make a point here

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Imapwnu
01.23.2012 , 02:53 AM | #15
My HM Group was 2x Guardian, Trooper and Consular; we got Smuggler loot 95% of the time, literally. Like, do a HM Esseles and get Smuggler gear on all bosses. Do something else, get Smuggler loot everywhere except on 1 boss. Literally Smuggler gear all around with an odd exception every now and then. And this is based on 20ish runs, not that small a number.

So I think your theory is probably correct for normal mode/ low lvl FP's - did a Hammer the other day on my smuggler, had 3 consulars in group, got 3 consular drops + 1 smuggler drop, but in HM's it stops applying. Fact.

And it's NOT normal RNG. Fact. If you run with the same group all the time, you'll get reproducible results from each boss 95% of the time.
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Reico
01.23.2012 , 02:58 AM | #16
Quote: Originally Posted by vegasbilly View Post
OK, so you know how you get into an FP, you beat the boss and then you loot it? (Let's say you're a BH and you have a Sorc, Operative, and A Juggy in your group.) Only to find out the loot is for the agent, you think, no worries next one will be mine hopefully.

You move on to the next boss, kill him and loot him and again the gear is for an agent? This keeps happening the whole way through the FP and you're depressed you tanked and wasted all that time, yet nothing dropped for you. I think I figured out why.

Whoever enters the FP first is the story owner, this causes the FP to gear toward him/her loot table wise. I use Black Talon as an example. I suffer from alt-aholism, so I make a lot of toons. I have gotten to the point where I can solo Black Talon. WHenever I enter the FP 95% of the loot is geared for whatever character I am playing.

If I take that same character and add a friend to the mix, and I still enter first, there is like a 5% chance my friend will get any loot. And if he enters first there is a 5% chance I will get any. Try this out yourselves and see if you get the same results, I would be curious if you experience the same thing.

Have a few of your friends group up and switch who enters the FP to start it off first paying attention to the majority loot that drops. I hope I haven't confused anyone with this just thought I would share with you and perhaps see if it really is fact or I am just delusional.

Yeah no.

I'm an SI tank and I always enter first. So far our BHs and Agents are near fully geared while I have seen 2 pieces of loot total in all my HM runs. My companions Ashara and Talos have more tier gear than I do.

So far in 5 Kaon runs I have seen 2 BH helms, 2 SW helms and 6 Agent helms, ZERO SI helms.
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Imapwnu
01.23.2012 , 03:15 AM | #17
Quote: Originally Posted by Reico View Post
Yeah no.

I'm an SI tank and I always enter first. So far our BHs and Agents are near fully geared while I have seen 2 pieces of loot total in all my HM runs. My companions Ashara and Talos have more tier gear than I do.

So far in 5 Kaon runs I have seen 2 BH helms, 2 SW helms and 6 Agent helms, ZERO SI helms.
Exactly my situation Saw 1 drop for JK in ~16 runs, lost the roll for it. My Doc is completely epic geared (and just from Greed rolls, mind you), with Rusk having more PvE epics than me too.
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Leftclickz
01.23.2012 , 04:10 AM | #18
i'm not quite sure exactly how random it is but here was my experience the other day

I did 5 hardmodes

Black Talon
Kaon Under Siege
False Emperor
Boarding Party
Directive 7

Now, I joined the group and they were already in BT, when i entered, no loot for me dropped. But here's where it gets weird, I was leading the charge for the other instances (As i knew them and was teaching them where they are/how to do them) and every single boss since then dropped columi for me. KUS, FE, BP and D7 all dropped agent columi gear. Needless to say i was happy, but the odds just don't seem in my favour, i do believe in luck but that's stretching it.

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Ashrah
01.23.2012 , 06:18 AM | #19
I dont believe this to be true though, my normal group consist of an Assassin tank (me) a Sorc or Merc healer, Marauder DPS and a Sorc dps.

We've been doing 2/3 hard modes a night for almost 2 weeks now and besides 1 pair of columni bracers everything has been BH/Agent gear while most of the times i'm the storyowner.
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tmblake
01.23.2012 , 03:19 PM | #20
I like how everyone keeps posting "no, you're wrong, it IS randomly generated" when we're trying to make the point that the low level normal mode flashpoints have not-so-randomly-generated gear, and all they keep bringing up are end-game hard mode flashpoints. Uh, duh, we weren't talking about those to begin with.
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