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How Important Are Key Bindings vs Point & Click?

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How Important Are Key Bindings vs Point & Click?

Ghostdoggg's Avatar

12.15.2011 , 07:06 AM | #71
Dont waste money on gear.

As others have already said.


Watch this from 11:45. Its part 1 of 6 about keybinds.


Kesrik's Avatar

12.15.2011 , 07:09 AM | #72
Quote: Originally Posted by Ghostdoggg View Post
Is mediocre.
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oOEggmanOo's Avatar

12.15.2011 , 07:13 AM | #73
Quote: Originally Posted by Ghostdoggg View Post
Dont waste money on gear.

As others have already said.


Watch this from 11:45. Its part 1 of 6 about keybinds.

OO, i was going to post this, i have to admit to using my mouse to turn since playing MMO's, but i had until about 6 months ago, never just used mouse and only the 2 strafe keys, i had W and S bound to backwards and forwards. Plus i had useless keys on my "prime real estate" keys, like map and logbook. Since finding Taugrims streams, i have changed considerably to how i bind keys on my keyboard and how i play in general.

I now slate my friends for still mouse clicking abilities as i understand, its taking your focus from the action which is where it should be, not looking at what ability i need to click next. If you are used to using your mouse for looking around and turning even slightly in game, you will pick it up quite quickly and it becomes very much, second nature.

Zanathax's Avatar

12.15.2011 , 07:44 AM | #74
Quote: Originally Posted by MichaelSean View Post
Alright, I'm going to give it a solid two weeks. Like I said in my initial post, starting with a brand new character in a brand new game seemed like THE ideal time. Maybe by the time I'm through the training grounds I'll look like I can actually walk and chew gum at the same time.

And thank you all for the great input! I really appreciate it.
The other thing is in most games if u press and hold right mouse button, then press left, it causes you to move forward. After you have practiced this enough, it really will become second nature to you. I normaly use W A S D keys this way.

W - forward
S - back
A - strafe left
D - strafe right

Most of the advice here has been solid, and if you use it that way you will get much better at PvP AND in any fights/boss fights where you have to move. As many posters have already said, this gets to be second nature very quickly.

The one thing they haven;t talked about is mouse movement - not just using right mouse to rotate, but also to move forward. I don;t use it all the time, but it can be VERY useful sometimes... depending on what I'm doing, at least.

MichaelSean's Avatar

12.15.2011 , 10:36 AM | #75
Quote: Originally Posted by EvanSnowWolf View Post
I want to thank everyone in this thread that didn't turn into a raging jerk on the subject. I have seen a lot of threads like this go downhill fast.
I'd like to second that. Threads like these, a lot of times, turn into flame wars, but there's been a lot of really helpful advice here.

Just an update ... I leveled my Jedi to 6 last night using the new method of binding my attack powers to hot keys (I was NEVER a keyboard turner, always a mouse turner ... not sure how I accidentally gave people the impression that I turned with the keyboard). Anyway ... at first I was trying to do TOO much at once, working on moving AND using hot keys for my powers. Then I decided to just take it one step at a time and work on getting used to keys activating my powers rather than using the point and click method. It's not second nature yet but I did improve quite a bit over the 6 levels.

One problem I kept running into, however, was my attack powers not activating unless I had the red targeting crosshair directly over the target. I don't remember this ever being an issue in WOW. Is that something unique to TOR to make combat more active?

Leneux's Avatar

12.15.2011 , 01:03 PM | #76
A long time ago in a galaxy far away, I used to be a clicker. So I know what you mean about transitioning. It can take some time, but there is another way . . .

About a year ago, after already becoming an accomplished keystroker, I purchased the Razor Naga gaming mouse.
17 button mouse with numbers 1 - 12 placed just under your right thumb.

My piont is, if you have the extra money ($60) and are having some trouble getting used to keybinding - buy this mouse. The learning curve is, imo, much faster & it tottaly makes keybinding obsolete.
Imagine having all your class abilities at the reach of your right thumb, how much freedom that gives your left hand . . . you will never have to stop moving to press a key again.
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Varcan's Avatar

12.15.2011 , 01:42 PM | #77
Here's my analogy to clicking and only using keyboard movement.:

It's like trying to catch a feral cat in dark room with one hand tied behind your back...

MichaelSean's Avatar

12.15.2011 , 02:37 PM | #78
I may look into that 12-button mouse ... that sounds more my style.

Here's a question for the PVPers out there - which type of targeting do you use most often? Target Nearest Enemy or Target Next Enemy?

xMrBill's Avatar

12.15.2011 , 03:26 PM | #79
I highly recommend a G13 + a mouse with at least 5 buttons.

Stack 2 bars at the bottom of the screen. G1-G7 = 1-7 on top bar. G8-G14 = 1-7 on bottom bar. Joystick is for strafing. Top thump button targets next, other thumb button jumps. G15 and higher does bar switching, voice comm PTT and companion abilities.

Auto-run gets bound to the forward thumb button on the mouse. Bind "move backwards" to the rear mouse thumb button. This way you have most of the movement and camera functions on the mouse. Your left thumb can strafe for you if you ever feel like strafing.

G-Seven's Avatar

12.15.2011 , 03:58 PM | #80
I have never understood why players that mouse drive still use the keyboard for strafing.

Assigning them to your mouse thumb buttons is much more efficient, in my opinion. One hand for movement and the other for abilities.
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