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Hood On/Off Toggle?


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wadecounty
03.13.2012 , 07:37 AM | #551
Quote: Originally Posted by FalmeseReb View Post
damn necro much?
It doesn't matter, its still a huge issue, there's even threads about it popping up still. The fact that this is probably the biggest thread on the Knight board with the most replies has to tell the devs something.

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Veluthurk
03.13.2012 , 08:15 AM | #552
Quote: Originally Posted by FalmeseReb View Post
damn necro much?
Mid Feb hardly qualifies as a necro...maybe a pre-retail launch one.

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Drayke
04.12.2012 , 07:56 AM | #553
Blah, still no hoodie drop? Come on BW, I wanna rock my "old cranky dude" face!

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Dubaco
04.12.2012 , 01:49 PM | #554
I guess I have a simple solution... probably should work. Please note that I have played a Sith Assassin, so the robes here have the Imperial look.


The Saber Marshal's Robe¹ (black and dark grey) and the Pleaded Shirt² (white and red) for example have the exact same mesh. The only difference is that one has the hood up, and the other has the hood down. They also have the exact same pattern, but with different colors.

If I would recolor the Pleaded Shirt to black an grey, it would look exactly like the Saber Marshal's Robe, but with the hood down. I could also recolor the Saber Marshal's Robe to make it look like the Pleaded Shirt, but with the hood up.

Today, items already are assigned two meshes. One for the Republic, and another for the Empire. You can see that when selling and item on the Hutt Trade Network. It essencially changes the look of the item completely.

Now If I also assign two meshes for each faction, I could have one mesh with the hood up, and one mesh with the hood down.

Someone in this topic had an idea. What if we could have an animation, triggered by a hotkey, just like the sitting animation is, in which the character pulled the hood up or down? I guess this would not be possible at a first analysis. When the hood is up, the hair mesh on the character is removed, as many people here have noticed. The transition between the presence of hair and absence of hair wouldn't be smoth. We would notice some issues sometime in the animation.

Now what if there is no animation, but just an exchange of meshes? There would be no clipping issues with the hair mesh and we could have a hood up/ hood down toggle.



There is a problem though. I haven't noticed a hood down version of the Black Talon Inquisitor Robes³ and any of the other "collar" robes. In this case, the hood toggle button could simply remove the hood completely, just so the hood toggle remains easy to implement, as the hood removal toggle is already present within the "Show Helmet" toggle.

If BW was really interested on fixing this issue though, they could build the models of the "collar" robes with the hood down from the existing models and everyone would be happy.

¹ Saber Marshal's Robe
http://www.torhead.com/item/2dOV9NB/...be#screenshots

² Pleaded Shirt
http://www.torhead.com/item/hdYLP2G/...rt#screenshots

³ Black Talon Inquisitor's Robe
http://www.torhead.com/item/7zJKeIx/...be#screenshots





PS: Wish you guys understood what I said =P

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llesna
04.29.2012 , 06:09 AM | #555
It's sad that we've no further information on this yet.

Perhaps someone else could ask about the hood toggle here? I've already asked my question there.

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Ellvaan
04.30.2012 , 03:41 AM | #556
Quote: Originally Posted by llesna View Post
It's sad that we've no further information on this yet.

Perhaps someone else could ask about the hood toggle here? I've already asked my question there.
Greetings llesna!

We do have some updated information regarding this topic which can be found in the following blogs:

In our Community Blog for February 17, 2012:

Quote:
NiklasWB: When will you make it possible for Force-using characters to pull up/down their hoods on their robes?

Damion Schubert: This is in the works now. It won't be in Game Update 1.2, but should get done in the next major update after that. And yes, we will extend this functionality to your Force-slinging companions as well.
In our Community Blog for April 20, 2012:

Quote:
Keldain: Love the stuff for 1.2! I think you guys are doing a great job on addressing the issues of the community. Just one thing I would really like an update on: is there any movement on getting an option to toggle hoods on and off?

Damion Schubert (Principal Lead Systems Designer): This is totally in the plan, but we are unsure at this time when it will get to you.
We hope this helps!

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Sarakk
04.30.2012 , 10:00 AM | #557
That last quote makes it sound like Hood Toggle might not make it into patch 1.3. That would make me very sad.

If hood toggle isn't going to be implemented soon, I hope they at least add some hood-down orange robes to tide us over. Maybe via legacy.

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Primarch_PWnD
04.30.2012 , 09:09 PM | #558
"totally in the plan" is not reassuring, and a far cry from the "we are working on it" that we would have liked.

They could have avoided having to do this entirely by simply adding some fraken hood-down robes in the first place....

At first i rolled my eyes at all the art-department hate, but as time goes by and we get armor as poor as the 1.2 armor, i really have to wonder what kind of oversight there is for the art direction. Whatever it is, its not enough.

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llesna
05.03.2012 , 08:57 AM | #559
Quote: Originally Posted by Ellvaan View Post
Greetings llesna!

[snip]

We hope this helps!
I'm afraid that vague answers like that don't help in the slightest and don't count as more information, as I already knew about these.

Which patch are we expecting these in?

1.3? 1.4? 2.0? 10.0?!

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Cuautehmoc
05.04.2012 , 09:26 AM | #560
Quote: Originally Posted by Ellvaan View Post
Greetings llesna!

We do have some updated information regarding this topic which can be found in the following blogs:

In our Community Blog for February 17, 2012:



In our Community Blog for April 20, 2012:


We hope this helps!
Since they're talking bout hoods, how bout fixing the jedi robe "butt" issue as well? Come on man, these things are a no brainer!!

Stop being so vague Bioware! Don Draper isn't happy with your vagueness...
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