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Hood On/Off Toggle?


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mitrikzoltan
01.17.2012 , 10:22 AM | #361
Quote: Originally Posted by WolfeKnight View Post
+1 for me,

+2 for each of my roommates standing behind me who both play a jedi and are jabbering in my ear about this issue as I type.

Artwork is not the issue. I have been modding games for years now, I have created the 3d "wire-frame" or mesh to the final texturing, to complete mods which I have published on the nexus. The mesh is the hardest part of this issue. As it has been clearly discussed and shown, the meshes and textures already exist. Once that is done, inserting new items into a game can be done in minutes. I have modded Oblivion, FO3, FONV, DA, DA2 and now Skyrim. I know that it only takes a few clicks to make something active in a game. There is a reason they have removed or shut off the existing armors that clearly were there during beta. It would be nice to know why.

On another yet related note... if your a purist like me, it is perfectly acceptable to use a trooper chest piece. Obi-Won wears trooper armor all the way through the Clone Wars series, so that validates the "Lore" aspect of it to me for RP purposes. Just a FYI, I soooo dislike the huge backpack most of the trooper armor has, so far I have found two without the backpack or so small it looks more part of the equipment and not distracting. One can be found on Tatooine from the Heavy Armor Vendor... white with yellow for around 12K. Not a fan of yellow... so I kept seaching... I found one that looks great off the GTN. Army green, battle scared, no backpack: TT-15A Powertech Body Armor. Fully mod-able.

As a synthweaver, I have search and search for schems that have no hood. The only one I have found is: Aspiring Knight's Vest. Fully mod-able and not too bad looking, however as I have seen mentioned before it IS Medium armor. I however use this when soloing, when rigged with the best mods available to me, I only take a 100 AC hit over the fully modded Trooper armor I use when doing flashpoints.

Just saying.... and that's my two cents worth.
OK, the first part you are right. Why did they remove it? Why not give us an update on the issue? They either want to add them with expansions, or made a CHOICE to make jedi hooded for some crazy purpose.

2, No, Obi-Wan wears a Jedi robe, with 3 armor pieces. And he looses the armors 1 by 1, in the latest season it's only a robe. He always looked jedi. You can only look trooper this way.


Lastly, not meant for you, but other posters who found miracle ways to remove the hood with head gear: stop fraking posting here!! We are upset because we can not see our characters face. Don't come here and tell us that you can cover your face with a head piece and that helps.

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Shadow_Spec
01.17.2012 , 10:25 AM | #362
I remember reading one of the threads concerning this complaint and well... There was a Dev (not confirmed) that openly said that this was not going to be option because it would be to difficult to implement. This is just what I remember reading.
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Tirrallas
01.17.2012 , 10:41 AM | #363
Quote: Originally Posted by Shadow_Spec View Post
I remember reading one of the threads concerning this complaint and well... There was a Dev (not confirmed) that openly said that this was not going to be option because it would be to difficult to implement. This is just what I remember reading.
http://www.reddit.com/r/swtor/commen...ager_for_star/

Will there be the ability to raise/lower hoods on Jedi Robes via a command? We've seen many different robe variations but very few without a hood down. I'd very much like to have the choice. Thank you!

We know this is wanted, but it's more work than you might expect. It may come in the future.
- StephenReid

TBH I call BS, I think they just are holding back gear and ruining peoples first play-through s of the story for the sake of being lazy and cutting design time down later on for future patches.
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01.17.2012 , 11:02 AM | #364
Quote: Originally Posted by Tirrallas View Post
http://www.reddit.com/r/swtor/commen...ager_for_star/

Will there be the ability to raise/lower hoods on Jedi Robes via a command? We've seen many different robe variations but very few without a hood down. I'd very much like to have the choice. Thank you!

We know this is wanted, but it's more work than you might expect. It may come in the future.
- StephenReid

TBH I call BS, I think they just are holding back gear and ruining peoples first play-through s of the story for the sake of being lazy and cutting design time down later on for future patches.
I believe it's BS too, but for now I want them to fix the other bugs that are ruining game play. Like the Jedi Guardian Animation Stutter, the Taral V glitches, and the list goes on and on and on...

I would like a hood down option.
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Kendaric
01.17.2012 , 11:20 AM | #365
Quote: Originally Posted by Tirrallas View Post
http://www.reddit.com/r/swtor/commen...ager_for_star/

Will there be the ability to raise/lower hoods on Jedi Robes via a command? We've seen many different robe variations but very few without a hood down. I'd very much like to have the choice. Thank you!

We know this is wanted, but it's more work than you might expect. It may come in the future.
- StephenReid

TBH I call BS, I think they just are holding back gear and ruining peoples first play-through s of the story for the sake of being lazy and cutting design time down later on for future patches.

A "simple" toggle to completely remove the hood wouldn't probably be an issue.
What I suspect they want, is having the hood actually displayed as hanging down your back and that may cause issues as the hood seems to be a seperate piece replacing the character's hair (on some robes a slight gap is noticable between the robe and the hood from certain angles). This would probably require a set of new animations, which may be the issue here.

Edit; It might have been a better solution to have the hoods as actual headgear from the start, rather than having them as part of the chestpiece.
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Jawa
01.17.2012 , 11:25 AM | #366
That was a nice article find, I beleive it's on their list of things to do, but playins as a Jedi Guardian, I too support the hood down option

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Lomerell
01.17.2012 , 12:48 PM | #367
Quote: Originally Posted by Kendaric View Post
A "simple" toggle to completely remove the hood wouldn't probably be an issue.
What I suspect they want, is having the hood actually displayed as hanging down your back and that may cause issues as the hood seems to be a seperate piece replacing the character's hair (on some robes a slight gap is noticable between the robe and the hood from certain angles). This would probably require a set of new animations, which may be the issue here.
It would not require new animations. Some earlier robes are hoodless but quite clearly have a *DOWN* hood behind the head. It's just a folded up hood that's static.

At that point, I wondered why I had no "HOOD UP" option to raise the hood on those pieces. That was before I realized I would get sick of hoods and want to go the other way later.

That static folded hood look is all that's needed, and it's already in game. The most possible labor to be done on it artwork-wise is a palette swap to match different colored chestpieces.

Bioware, this SWTOR fanboy will give you lots of money to continue to subscribe. I want to be a powerful Jedi who controls the Force and combat with expert precision. I want to inspire awe in my enemies and be able to manipulate time and space...and take down my hood.
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Kendaric
01.17.2012 , 01:15 PM | #368
Quote: Originally Posted by Lomerell View Post
It would not require new animations. Some earlier robes are hoodless but quite clearly have a *DOWN* hood behind the head. It's just a folded up hood that's static.
You're probably refering to the Temple Watchman's Vest/Aspiring Knights Vest (medium armor, the latter being orange quality). I'm not sure whether the hood is animated/deformed by your movement/combat animations but will check that once I manage to log into the game. If the hood on this piece is a seperate piece as well, it could (and should) be used as a base for lowered hoods.

Edit: The hood on this chestpiece is indeed static and not animated, though I'm not sure whether a static hood will work on the chestpieces with attached capes (never used one of them myself, so no idea how badly clipping issues could be due to the cape animation).
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mitrikzoltan
01.17.2012 , 03:31 PM | #369
I'm on Balmorra with a sith inquisitor. Just fought a jedi Knight, and guess what. His hood was down, he looked AWSOME. Reminded me how crappy I look, and that I cant even enjoy my main.

Also, from the clipping you could tell the hood is a different part. I would volunteer to add this feature for free Bioware.

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MaxxBlaze
01.17.2012 , 03:39 PM | #370
go into your preferences and i think its in user interface.. toggle your helmet and your hood should go up.