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PLEASE tone down canon part on Collocoid War Game(normal).

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PLEASE tone down canon part on Collocoid War Game(normal).

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Darth_Vampirius
01.21.2012 , 05:50 PM | #1
Look, I understand the game has to be challenging sometimes, but right now I am 50 in full PVP gear and cannot get a group to clear this FP. Really? I have cleared almost all other content including Kaon Under Siege and heroics just fine, but Collocoid can't be done. Here's why:

People are not that good at moving turrets. I have tried the instance maybe 3-4 times, twice @ 50. No group I have found has been able to get past the opening turret sequence. I am standing there with Collocoids on 3 sides of me and a dead party. This needs to be adjusted.
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//We have seen the argument of Skill vs. Gear throughout the existence of MMO PvP and we are of the opinion both are good for an RPG, falling on one side of the scale (gear has no purpose in PvP vs. gear is the only thing that matters in PvP) is not desirable.//

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Bastion-fox
01.21.2012 , 06:03 PM | #2
Done it twice at 42.

You need better teammates is all.
Try turning around so you all face the middle, that way you can shoot behind each other and catch blind spots easier. If that fails, you could always heal while the other three shoot the cannons.

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Ultimas
01.21.2012 , 06:17 PM | #3
My experience is that you cannot win with everyone on cannons. You need 3 on cannons and one healer standing on the block in the middle. Hope that helps.

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Darth_Vampirius
01.21.2012 , 06:23 PM | #4
Quote: Originally Posted by Bastion-fox View Post
Done it twice at 42.

You need better teammates is all.
Try turning around so you all face the middle, that way you can shoot behind each other and catch blind spots easier. If that fails, you could always heal while the other three shoot the cannons.
I know it can be done with better team mates... but I think it still needs to be toned down.
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//We have seen the argument of Skill vs. Gear throughout the existence of MMO PvP and we are of the opinion both are good for an RPG, falling on one side of the scale (gear has no purpose in PvP vs. gear is the only thing that matters in PvP) is not desirable.//

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Reeny
01.21.2012 , 06:36 PM | #5
Why must this FP be glitched to be able to win it?

It's stupid and shouldnt be the case ...

Quote: Originally Posted by Bastion-fox View Post
Done it twice at 42.

You need better teammates is all.
Try turning around so you all face the middle, that way you can shoot behind each other and catch blind spots easier. If that fails, you could always heal while the other three shoot the cannons.

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Battyone
01.21.2012 , 06:42 PM | #6
Did this at 42, 3 on cannons me standing on the box in the middle healing. Your group needs target priority or they will fail. (Ranged Droids > Big Droids > little droids) Also it helps to remind them they can sweep and should pull their camera back and not focus just on the 45 degrees in front of them.

*EDIT -- hell come to think of it 3manned it last night carrying a guildie for gear. Just have to work well as a team.

So you don't need to glitch, you need to have some situational awareness.
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Bastion-fox
01.21.2012 , 06:46 PM | #7
Quote: Originally Posted by Reeny View Post
Why must this FP be glitched to be able to win it?

It's stupid and shouldnt be the case ...
What are you talking about?

They rotate 360 degrees, if you want behind each others backs then you can cover all the blind spots. Did you even read my post? I said nothing about glitching.

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darthjerro
01.21.2012 , 07:07 PM | #8
see, my groups cant beat this fp either.

Wanna know why.

Because these people playing today ARE NOT gamers. They play mmos and dont really have any hand eye coordination, dont really have any twitch, but they know how to mash buttons really well.

This is the REAL reason mmos and games in general have been dumbed down alot for the masses.....ENTER THE CASUAL....The plague of gaming everywhere....
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Satans_Chosen
01.21.2012 , 09:48 PM | #9
I have not had a single wipe on this mission the last 4 or 5 times, and they were all with PUG. I myself is only l47 with regular gear. My method is to set camera zoom out distance to 100% and zoom out all the way once I am in the turret. I also recommend to each PUG that the healer stays out to heal while the other 3 man the turrets. It works very well.

One big problem with this mini-game is you have to hold RMB to move the turret with mouse, which feels very primitive. Vehicle or gunnery sequences are almost mandatory in FPS games nowadays and surely BioWare could have made this one better. That aside, once you get used to it, this FP is pretty easy.
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Iwipe
01.21.2012 , 10:03 PM | #10
I did this at 42, it was challenging but not impossible. My group pretty much one shot the two phases of the canons.. I think we tried it earlier at 39 or somethign but failed simply because we didn't have to the hp for it..

As a healer, I didn't really need to get off the turret. As long as one person is still alive when all the colicoid spawns, the objective updates.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=my5cZ...ure=plpp_video

http://dulfyforce.wordpress.com/2011...coid-war-game/