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BW isn't getting the praise they deserve.

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BW isn't getting the praise they deserve.

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LenaMarie
01.22.2012 , 04:43 PM | #231
Personally, I think the game is fun and I can see myself playing for a very long time as I love Bioware writing. But even I reconize the Fanatical Loyalists are in their own world.

This game will be much better the day Bioware realizes they dont know more then their players. Alot of the things they say basically amounts to "No, we wont do that because your all wrong" IE Group tools. Many, many, many MMO Devs have fallen prey to this line of thinking, most notably SOE who've even admitted they should have listened to players with SWG and not ignore what the fans want.

The game right now does NOT need more Flastpoints, Ops and Heroic 4s either, what it needs first is a good mechanism for players to find groups because even with heavy or full servers its near impossible for a majority of people.

Please Bioware, dont just SAY your listening, actually DO it.

As for the other problems like bugs and such, I think Bioware will address them, the only problem is waiting.

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HomeSlixe
01.22.2012 , 04:50 PM | #232
Quote: Originally Posted by unclekaula View Post
Id like to thank all the haters and unsubbers for paying their 60+ bucks to play a game for a month. I'm sure some of it went towards making the game better and for that a tip of the hat to ya.
And a wag of the finger for all the loyal fans. Shame on them for enjoying this game so much without complaining!

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Seeiphiel
01.24.2012 , 01:06 PM | #233
Quote: Originally Posted by XJones View Post
This game is less than a month old. Give it 10 years and 4 expansion, hell 1/3 of that at least. Don't call it the worst game ever that you won't ever come back to within the first 6 months. It's just unintelligent to do so. Great things come to those who wait, those who take the hard path are often rewarded with greater treasure, with great power comes great responsability. Remember that Pete, remember that. Whoah, sorry... got all weird there.
This ^

Quote: Originally Posted by HomeSlixe View Post
And a wag of the finger for all the loyal fans. Shame on them for enjoying this game so much without complaining!
Just because you haven't noticed that the fans are complaining doesn't mean they're not.

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Enako
01.24.2012 , 01:16 PM | #234
Quote: Originally Posted by Taurusaud View Post
You can't put out a game to compete with WoW and have it be inferior to WoW in nearly every facet save story. I mean it's just common sense.
and what is superior in wow compared to swtor then ?

- guild bank ?

i dont give a flying crap.

- arena ?

i dont give two shizz.

- neverending 4 hour 20 man button-mash fests that are called raids ?

spare me.

addons that automate almost entirety of the game to the point of making it 4 click ?

get real.

- auction house that is exploited by auctioneer addon to the brink of making crafting unprofitable for everyone ?

save us.

- neverending grind ?

go to hell.

- nitty-gritty obscure feature that you have got used to in your 5 years of wow gaming ?

pointless.

- damage meters and minmaxing that turns the game to a jerk-pissing fest ?

damn you.

- noninstanced servers in which 200 people cram into stormwind and numerous 12 year olds run 'nekkid nekkid nekkid' without clothes ?

why.

...............

this can go and on.

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Enako
01.24.2012 , 01:17 PM | #235
Quote: Originally Posted by Taurusaud View Post
My sub hasn't run out yet. I came late. Unfortunately I didn't check the forums first...
we cant wait until the day your sub runs out comes.

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Napalmbrain
01.24.2012 , 01:19 PM | #236
Quote: Originally Posted by XJones View Post
Once again, Bioware. You have been great and I expect good things from you. PLEASE don't let me down.
So in your opinion they didn't let you down...yet. But you are admitting that they could?

Well if you use your head and realize not everyone is YOU, you would see that Bioware has ALREADY let people down according to them.

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Enako
01.24.2012 , 01:25 PM | #237
Quote: Originally Posted by Napalmbrain View Post
So in your opinion they didn't let you down...yet. But you are admitting that they could?

Well if you use your head and realize not everyone is YOU, you would see that Bioware has ALREADY let people down according to them.
yes. the people who are feeling let down with every gaming company since blizzard started going pandas on their lot. and seeking 'wow in another skin' in any other game.

..............

skuzi, but i dont feel any mercy for them.

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Barathos
01.24.2012 , 01:26 PM | #238
Quote: Originally Posted by Enako View Post
and what is superior in wow compared to swtor then ?

- guild bank ?

i dont give a flying crap.

- arena ?

i dont give two shizz.

- neverending 4 hour 20 man button-mash fests that are called raids ?

spare me.

addons that automate almost entirety of the game to the point of making it 4 click ?

get real.

- auction house that is exploited by auctioneer addon to the brink of making crafting unprofitable for everyone ?

save us.

- neverending grind ?

go to hell.

- nitty-gritty obscure feature that you have got used to in your 5 years of wow gaming ?

pointless.

- damage meters and minmaxing that turns the game to a jerk-pissing fest ?

damn you.

- noninstanced servers in which 200 people cram into stormwind and numerous 12 year olds run 'nekkid nekkid nekkid' without clothes ?

why.

...............

this can go and on.
Then enlighten us, what do YOU like about this game that isn't in WoW? I think that's what he was getting at.

Edit: Putting this late for a reason, if you come to the forums with a hostile attitude you will receive hostility in return. Treat people with respect (those who seem to have respectability, aka not haters/trolls) and in turn, you will receive respect. Keep that in mind.

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Byoo
01.24.2012 , 01:54 PM | #239
Quote: Originally Posted by Taurusaud View Post
You can't put out a game to compete with WoW and have it be inferior to WoW in nearly every facet save story. I mean it's just common sense.
This game is better than WOW on a lot of different levels.

1. The quest rewards are useable by your specific class or you get planet specific comendations.

2. You have a valid choice between single player or dungeons to get great loot. Want to grind? Gerat! Here's an orange piece! Want to dungeon? Great! Here's an orange piece.

3. The crafting system is excellent and encourages rerolling.

4. The companion system is great.

5. The quests are meaningful.

6. They fixed action delay and are working on the UI

7. The graphics are great if you have a strong rig and strong graphics card.

I say all this b/c I played Vanilla WOW all the way to Cat. Vanilla WOW was fantastic after about 6 months of problems. I stuck with it b/c the lore was great and they eventually fixed most problems.

If you say the graphics suck on SW:TOR...I don't know what to tell you. They used this engine to allow much weaker systems to run it but have left it open to really make it shine with higher end cards...a GTX 280 and ATI 4850 are not high end cards, btw.

If you aren't running a high end laptop/desktop-i7 or AMD Black with 2.6+ and 8MG+ with a graphics card of G460+ or ATI 6870+ then you aren't going to be able to experience this in all of its golry!

I understand some have these specs and are still having issues...that sux and to those, I'm sorry.

One more thing. I like the instanced quests where I don't have to worry about others training mobs to me or bogarting my loot.

My biggest issues right now are fixing the UI and continually rolling out new end game content.

I have a BH, SI, IA and SW all leveled to Taris or higher and have enjoyed each one of them b/c their stories are different and if you play all 4, you get a complete understanding of the imperial strategy.

I've never been a pvp guy but I wish they would segment it by 10's instead of letting a 48 in with a 20.

Overall, it's the best MMO experience I've had despite Khem Val getting in the way every time I want to initiate a convo with a NPC.

I do not want damage meters unless a que is made to speifically tell loot master that someone is competely asleep.

I do not want a dungeon finder. In my opinion, working for something is better than being given something.

I sure as hell don't want a gear score mechanic.

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GarbonzotheDude
01.24.2012 , 02:02 PM | #240
/shrug

I don't think they really deserve a lot of praise. The game is decent but nothing extraordinary. Their launch seems to have gone rather well compared to a lot of other mmorps so I suppose there's that to point out.

Outside of that I'll save my praise to see if they fix problems I have with the game currently. Well...that and how they do with adding additional content to the game.

That will be the deciding factor for me. In it's current state? Well, I'm still playing so I'm obviously still enjoying the game. However, I don't think this game so far is anything noteworthy of praising nor am I sure of whether I will be around for long.

Like I said it depends.