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BW isn't getting the praise they deserve.

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BW isn't getting the praise they deserve.

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Path-x
01.21.2012 , 08:37 PM | #161
I am completely satisfied with the game. Personally I hate MMOs (WoW in particular) but SWTOR really positively surprised me.

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Taurusaud
01.21.2012 , 08:38 PM | #162
They are getting what they deserve, but it certainly isn't praise.

However, if you look at Bioware's website it's filled with self-praise so it all balances out!

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Poogination
01.21.2012 , 08:38 PM | #163
Quote: Originally Posted by Seeiphiel View Post
You mean it's not perfect? No surprise there. At least it shouldn't be a surprise for anyone who can figure out how to think.

You do realize the game is less than 2 months old right? Other mmorpgs stayed in development longer and were terrible during launch.
You realize this budget was 200 million dollars... right?
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SamuraBob_Fl
01.21.2012 , 08:39 PM | #164
Quote: Originally Posted by Scopian View Post
Right, they didn't add raid level crafting drops till Wrath, now the game is an entire expansion past that. TOR competes with Cata WoW...not Wrath, BC, or Vanilla WOW.

TOR has two starting zones and one path per faction. WoW has multiple starting zones (6 or 8 now total, I don't know for sure), and has multiple zones for each level for most of the leveling process.

I do agree with you on them making it nearly impossible to die in WoW. It sucks and its stupid. But their reasoning for doing this is because many, many people who tried the game and left/quit before reaching level cap sited their number one reason was dying easy. This is when WoW was really trying to push their product to the masses.
WoW does have multiple starting zones, sure. The thing to me is that I leveled 3 80's, and the way the game ends up playing I never really felt like I had any decision to make about where I leveled. At most I could stick around one zone until I outleveled another.

Of course, you can do the same thing in TOR. There's nothing that really forces you to do any particular zone once you get your advanced class. You could level from 10 to 50 just doing FP's and WZ's if you wanted to.
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Ariacan
01.21.2012 , 08:44 PM | #165
I like this game, but all in all it's a sub-par wow with story elements slapped on it.

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Setanian
01.21.2012 , 08:47 PM | #166
Quote: Originally Posted by SamuraBob_Fl View Post
WoW does have multiple starting zones, sure. The thing to me is that I leveled 3 80's, and the way the game ends up playing I never really felt like I had any decision to make about where I leveled. At most I could stick around one zone until I outleveled another.

Of course, you can do the same thing in TOR. There's nothing that really forces you to do any particular zone once you get your advanced class. You could level from 10 to 50 just doing FP's and WZ's if you wanted to.
The different is; If you are to follow your class quest, you have to go from zone to zone in the order you are told. Additionally, on ToR, it's the exact same thing, zone after zone. The same 2/3/4 gang mobs just standing there waiting to be killed.

As opposed tro WoW or a lot of other like games, there are wanderers and multiple zones to cater for your level.

I don't want ToR to be another WoW by any means, but I would like to think they could have come up with something a lot less linear and boring.

I have boxed multiple characters on many games. In ToR I cannot see me even wanting to level a 2nd toon.

But like I said earlier, different strokes, different folks.
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sevalaricgirl
01.21.2012 , 08:47 PM | #167
Hmm, I just started playing and I love the game. I think Bioware did a great job and the breaks will be fixed.

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Feelinestars
01.21.2012 , 08:48 PM | #168
Quote: Originally Posted by SamuraBob_Fl View Post
I don't really see how eliminating features is "innovation," but ok. A few years back Blizzard did what was best for their MMO, but at this point it's not really believable when people defend WoW as somehow being something that's really shining and polished. I understand people want to defend the game they invested years in, I played it for 5 years, but it's clearly not nearly as good as TOR at this point.
You're going to say with a straight face that TOR is better than WoW right now? Both games in 2012?

Even if you type it, I know you don't even believe it yourself.

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SamuraBob_Fl
01.21.2012 , 08:50 PM | #169
Quote: Originally Posted by Feelinestars View Post
You're going to say with a straight face that TOR is better than WoW right now? Both games in 2012?

Even if you type it, I know you don't even believe it yourself.
Yes I am.

Leveling isn't a grind, and I've never seen "additional instances cannot be launched at this time" in TOR.

Also, I kind of like talent trees.
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nevetss
01.21.2012 , 08:50 PM | #170
Quote: Originally Posted by sevalaricgirl View Post
Hmm, I just started playing and I love the game. I think Bioware did a great job and the breaks will be fixed.
This, cept I have been playing the game. Give some more time seriously if you stop bombarding them with hate and more constructive post the game will go a lot farther. They will fix all the small and major things, but if all you do is "the game has a bug and I don't like it!" what do they get off of that to make it better?
Aww, so does this mean that the deal that we just made behind their backs that doesnt really exist but it does but to them it doesn't, doesn't actually exist now?

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