BW isn't getting the praise they deserve.

It was a mix up.. I saw .5 but the . was a sentence ender.. My mistake and apologies.

I'll post a response to your Question next.

praise is for kindergartners and disabled kids.

I guess that rules EA-Bioware in.

Rather than regale you with stories, I'll say this. I enjoyed WoW crafting system, and I find ToRs to be a few steps backwards. An opinion, but mine.


How isn't superior is probably a better question. WoW world is massive and open, I can run from one end of a continent to another if I choose to do so. I can also fly if I wish. There are literally thousands of roaming mobs.

Now let's look at ToR;

It is completely linear. You cannot go from one side of the planet to another. You are directly every step of the way via corridors. Once you need to move to a different area, you need to take a taxi. You cannot fly. It's Star Wars and you cannot fly!!


Well I had 6 accounts and boxed them all at once. You cannot do that in ToR.

I think SWTOR is above wow for crafting.

That being said both games pale in comparison to the crafting in SWG and EQ2. WoW really brought the 'crafting' bar way down in games.

An opinion, not based on any known facts.

Sure, opinions are opinions, but I still would like to know anything that was positive about WoW's crafting system and better than TOR's. I really can't think of one thing that was enjoyable about it. I ground out professions to keep up my raid performance and didn't really see anything fun in it.

Yeah, you could run from one end of the continent to the other, but why would you? I never really found any fun in having to run around, I wanted more taxis. It always felt like a huge time sink.

What does multi-boxing have to do with any of this and what's stopping you from doing that in TOR? Also, that's not replayability, I think? I guess unless you count having a completely different 6 class team each time. I guess that cool but it puts you in a fairly unique position.

Yours is priceless-e-er...or something.

I usually went with dual gathering because the game had an AH that acutally worked. But I can't say I have a blast going in circles.



A lot more time on foot? Ooooh! I see, you are one of those trying to compare TOR of today to WoW of 5 years ago cause you can start a toon and get to level 20 and get a mount within hours these days. Plus, TOR feels boxed in, narrow and cheap. Repubic goes from city planet to former city planet to another city planet before finally getting to anything Star Wars-ish or open feeling (Tatooine).

There is more variation in leveling....there fore more replay value. Its hard to argue that fact over what TOR offers. WoW has three times as many starting zones per faction as TOR I think? You can take class/characters through two different questing paths and two entirely different zones with two different stories 1-60...that's two per faction. After Hellfire Penninsula you can go two different directions as well...Northrend (70-80) offers two different paths (mostly)....level 80 offers two different paths...81-85 are the same path.

PvP gives decent enough XP to level at a similar rate as questing which gives you yet another option (yet more replay).

There is a reason people have multiple level 85's in this game.

EDIT: I can't believe I'm actually defending WoW. I hate that game. Maybe this game really is that bad to me...holy shuttle.

That's fair enough, I see crafting as an ongoing experience in an MMO and not something performed just to keep up any other performance.

Different strokes, different folks.

Again, I enjoyed roaming and getting to know every part of the world.

Multi-Boxing allows re-playability. I doubt many folks want to hear the same voice acting for every class in ToR. I may be wrong.

I've multi-boxed on every MMO I ever played, except ToR which cannot be multi-boxed. That to me is replay ability and in no way unique.

Yeah, a lot of people went with 2 gathering professions. Why? Because crafting was useless.

I don't feel boxed in in TOR.

WoW has absolutely zero variation in leveling. You grind out a bunch of mobs the exact same way in the same zones. Being able to skip Stonetalon Mountains because you ran a couple instances isn't variation. You're still going to grind out Stranglethorn Vale for the 5th time, and if you're really unlucky you'll have to do Desolace again because the game just never had enough quests.

Saying that you can take 2 directions in the BC areas is simply false. You can level enough through Zangamarsh that you can skip Nagrand, or maybe do Nagrand and skip the mountain area after it. Ultimately, the only variation is which dots on the line you skip.

Northrend doesn't have 2 different paths, it has two different starting areas that converge on the same path.

It is competitive it had over 2 mil subs but the constant wow players bashing the game and people getting their opinion on buying the game from a forum is causing a problem no matter what game it is that comes out it will have bugs NO matter what game it is and just by reading forums you would thing you character was completely unplayable and cannot move and everywhere you did walk you fell through the map or something.

The game is great and you seriously need to actually go look up what it takes to make a game and repair whats wrong with it, specifically when a game is as big as SWTOR if you don't think this game is competitive your wrong it has had the biggest subs ever on release and bioware is working hard on fixing and keeping people happy in the game it is the people who believe they are entitled to more than they really are reporting bugs on a forum and trying to have them noticed by the devs is good but bashing the game for a bug is another. Btw, want to keep comparing to wow? Here you go what was their subs 2 years ago? I believe somewhere around 15mil or so bragging on their box now they have dropped to somewhere in the low 9 millions...a game drops and once everything is fixed I will be proud to sit here and watch this game prosper and be part of it.