No, You May Not Roll on Items for Another Class and Strip Out the Mods

It's gonna be funny when those guys end up looking for raids to join in a year or so and can't get into one because people know what a jerk they were in groups

And what's funnier is, Legacy names will make it so even alts are remembered

Your comparison falls apart here. The majority of the game's content is solo PvE content, and companion upgrades thus carry more weight than you give them. Flashpoints can be totaled on two hands, warzones on one (with fingers left over), while PvE quests comprise a solid 85% of the game content at a bare minimum. You don't get to ascribe automatic priority based on your own criteria, which leads us to your second point.

"Courtesy" is going to be defined in different fashions by different people depending on their upbringing, culture, and even decisions contrary to both they may make as adults/independent entities. Likewise, I'm amused that people pull out the "courtesy" card when it comes to putting others first, but never see it from the other side: if you're always putting someone else first, your own needs are never taken care of. Using your particular "courtesy logic", someone else taking an item you want is being discourteous to you. That's why this particular argument doesn't hold much weight: it falls apart too easily in this particular paradigm.

If a single mod is an upgrade in an item, then it's an upgrade for a player, period. If an item is an upgrade for a companion, it's an upgrade, period. You don't get to ascribe your personal priority system to other players and expect them to just meekly accept it.

This is the wrong metric to use. Or it might be better to say that it doesn't prove what you think it proves.

It shouldn't matter how much of the game companions are used in - it should matter how much of MY game companions are used in. If a player spends most of their time playing with a companion, it really doesn't matter how much of the game they're missing - it's a big effect on them. You'd expect someone who spends all their time PvP'ing to have a larger claim on solid PvP gear than someone who might do a warzone once a week, right? PvP is the same amount of the game no matter what. Likewise, it doesn't really matter how often someone could potentially use companions - what should matter if how often they DO.

This assumes that everyone makes use of the content in equal portions. Some people don't do flashpoints (and encounter need-before-greed in planetary quest groups). Some people don't do warzones. So far, I have spent 80%+ of my time with either of two companions (sequentially, not concurrently). Other people might spend 20% or less.

But you might not be able to get that particular orange piece from the GTN or planetary vendors, while you can probably get the individual mods from all of those places. To many people one orange piece is not the same as every other orange piece.

I can't believe there are over 20 pages of people QQing about random rolls on random loot drops. You click the little button... and it's random. Who cares? I mean really.

They should take the button away and make the entire process random so everyone would find something more meaningful to do with their time.

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I completely agree. Yet there are 80+ pages of the popular counter-argument, "The Need button is there and the game allows me to press it, so it must be right." I am reminded of the Futurama episode where Zapp Brannigan tells Kipp, "Stop sighing so much."

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Whoa, full stop. "Expecting to Win" is entitlement. To be entitled to it you have some right to it. However in this game, you do not have a right to it over the others in the group. Everyone in the group however is entitled to roll on it as they see fit, but beyond that, there is no entitlement. Yet people on both sides, and not the people you are arguing with, but yourself and the opposite extreme claim entitlement to the item in different ways. And that's the thing, words have specific meanings, not varying definitions based on someones opinions.

Like ferroz, he is not saying he has any entitlement to what drops, he is saying he is only entitled to ROLL on anything that drops, as is everyone in the group. He's also not saying he WILL roll on everything that drops, just that that is the right given him and everyone else in the group. And anything beyond those rules is player choice and can be discussed prior. If not, there can be no complaints.

Also you stated nothing is Class Restricted. There actually are class restricted drops, i've seen some for IA on my Marauder a few times.

I am not even saying I necessarily disagree with your opinion about what should be considered a "need" but, ultimately, you are the one who wants things to work a certain way. The onus is on you.

Maybe the player "needing" loot he shouldn't will consider your harassment a deterrent, maybe he won't. You can't assume he will know it's a consequence or even wrong. At the very least, you owe it to your fellow party members to attempt to deal with it in adult manner that avoids all the drama you plan to inflict.

If it is important enough for you to get upset with and potentially fill the PUG or whatever with your additional dose of bad behavior for the rest of the players who did nothing wrong, it is important enough to spare a few words at the group.

If an orange item dropped with a +30 expertise enhancement, I wonder how many people would roll for it regardless of "intended class".